June 27th, 2024

The Soylent delusion and the folly of food-hacking

Silicon Valley's Soylent aimed to revolutionize nutrition but faced issues like consumer illnesses and recalls. Critics questioned oversimplification of nutrition. Soylent's journey warns against neglecting food's cultural significance.

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The Soylent delusion and the folly of food-hacking

In the early 2010s, Silicon Valley engineers led by Rob Rhinehart aimed to revolutionize nutrition with Soylent, a meal replacement drink. Despite initial hype and funding, Soylent faced issues like consumer illnesses and recalls due to quality problems. Critics questioned the oversimplification of human nutrition and the long-term effects of relying solely on Soylent. The company's attempts to rebrand and target a broader audience were met with limited success. Soylent's journey reflects the tech culture's ambition to streamline complex human needs, highlighting the challenges of reducing biology to algorithms. The narrative warns against overlooking the intricate relationships between food, biology, and society. While food technology has potential, viewing meal replacements as a universal solution neglects the cultural and emotional significance of eating. The cautionary tale of Soylent underscores the limitations of trying to engineer human perfection through technology, emphasizing the enduring complexity and wonder of embodied existence.

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By @n42 - 5 months
This author is so offended by the idea of meal substitutes that they attempt to dress them up as class warfare. Such baseless, emotional absurdity
By @krageon - 5 months
Calling an upset stomach a significant side effect is ridiculous. There is an incredibly trivial reason for this: A normal amount of fiber after a very fiber-poor diet (relatively common for folks in the US) is going to give your stomach some issues while it adjusts.

This article ends up reading like a naturalistic fallacy writ large, and I think it is: The author's conclusion is explicitly "Our needs and drives have been shaped by millions of years of co-evolution [...]", which is a very lukewarm take.

By @jerlam - 5 months
I legitimately loved Soylent when I gave it a shot. I didn't have to waste my lunch hour going to the same tired restaurants and overpay for the same tired food, or spend extra time and money to meal-prep the night before. Soylent was always there. And if you didn't want Soylent that day, those options still existed, and they tasted better because Soylent does indeed have the taste and texture of watery cardboard. I never had any desires to go "full-time", since food plays a much larger role in our lives than nourishment, and the science behind Soylent was already questionable being based on US population dietary guidelines.

I often felt better drinking Soylent, although in retrospect it was probably because it was half the calories of a restaurant meal. A Soylent "meal" is only 400 calories. But the second box regularly gave me gastrointestinal problems and I quit. I tried many of the later formulas and competing brands, but that problem creeps up often enough that it's not worth the investment.

I think the notion of Soylent solving hunger problems, or being subsidized and given to the poor, was never really in the plan. It was a form of greenwashing, a way for their users to think they were involved in something good for the world.

By @trainsarebetter - 5 months
The biggest take I got from my soylent journey was, it’s not Perfect, but better than a lot of what people eat. coke and a bag a chips vs a bottle of soylent? Soylent is going to be a much better take.

These emotional critique articles completely miss that. There obliviously unaware of the state of most peoples diets across the classes.

Nothing beats some green veggies from your garden and some fish you caught with friends, but we don’t all have that luxury

By @demondemidi - 5 months
I’ve heard about Soylent and wanted to know more but this article is void of any facts and feels like a rage blog by someone who already has a grudge against programmers. Bummer.
By @cut3 - 5 months
Ive drank soylent for every meal for over a decade and plan to continue. Its healthier than how I used to eat, it triggers none of my allergies, its cheap, its quick, and I enjoy the taste. Just had a checkup and all my vitals are perfect.
By @snakeyjake - 5 months
I've never tried Soylent but in 2019 I started eating Huel and since August 2020 every single calorie I have ingested, except when eating with friends, has been from Huel.

In that time my high blood pressure has disappeared, my elevated cholesterol has disappeared, I have gone from pre-diabetic to normal, every single result in every single blood test it is possible for a general practitioner to order is exactly, not almost but actually exactly, in the middle of the normal range. That was NOT the case before.

My teeth haven't fallen out, in fact because I ingest practically no sugar my teeth are spectacular. I don't longingly pine for a steak or salad, and I haven't withered away into nothing on a diet of ground-up plants and such.

The three or so times per week I eat "typical" foods with friends I laugh and chat and peck at my food and then go back to what works for me.

On top of all that I feel fantastic and have hours more time every day-- except unlike most lifehackers I use my extra time to relax and do nothing.

If that's a delusion call me Don fucking Quixote.

By @tapoxi - 5 months
I actually think the Cafe Mocha Soylent is really good. It allows me to easily calorie count breakfast while providing caffeine.
By @Clamchop - 5 months
What an annoying polemic. Sure, Soylent is at once both the plaything of diet-hacking tech bros and the subsistence food we'll shovel to the poor in the coming dystopian nightmare.

They present no fundamental issue with the notion of a nutritionally-complete formula. What they do instead is note that there are unanswered questions, and extrapolate from there that the questions are unanswerable, or worse, that it's a moral failure to have the curiosity to even ask.

Unrepresented here is anyone who likes or has benefited from this product.

Soylent is neither particularly popular nor cheap. Try again when the hypotheticals you've constructed have some credible relationship with reality.

By @dekhn - 5 months
I lost 50 pounds while drinking only Soylent for a few months. It was a weird experience
By @toomuchtodo - 5 months
Chocolate Soylent is delicious, can recommend.