Let's Stop Asking "Why Do You Want to Work for Us?" In Interviews
The article challenges the interview question "Why do you want to work for us?" highlighting financial stability as the main driver for job seekers. It advocates for honesty and questions the necessity of providing other reasons.
Read original articleThe article argues against the common interview question "Why do you want to work for us?" stating that the primary motivation for most individuals is financial stability. While factors like the tech stack or work-life balance may be appealing, money remains the key driver for job seekers. The author suggests that honesty about this motivation is crucial and questions the need for candidates to provide other reasons when money is the primary concern. The article emphasizes that being motivated by money is acceptable in today's world and that employees can still excel even if money is their main drive. The author concludes by urging companies to reconsider asking this question during the application and interview process, as the true answer is often financial security.
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If you had somehow managed to slip through the HR screening without being a sports fan then the day of interviews would root that out and you would not get an offer.
It ensured that everybody who was there lived and breathed sports and would run through walls to create a great product.
Compare to later when I worked at FOXSports.com where sports knowledge was a bonus. The product was worse and the team had to spend too much time (more than 0 minutes) explaining to a front end dev why a baseball box score had an order that stats were always displayed in because that’s the way fans expected it (true story).
I think the value of the question is that, all things being equal, do you want the person who wants to be there because they have a connection to what you do, or do you want someone who just wants a job?
I’d pick the former.
-- It's an easy way of finding out whether the candidate has done some homework about the company and the role. For insecure interviewers, it's a request to be flattered. For confident ones, it's a way of finding out whether the candidate has identified a specific opportunity that she or he is genuinely excited about. Having employees who are intrinsically motivated works out better than just a group of paycheck collectors.
-- It's a way of finding out whether you might be promotable. That's especially important in a growing company. As opportunities increase, there's an "up or out" dynamic that moves the most valuable employees into bigger roles, while shedding the ones that have little chance of rising higher. (Netflix is famously candid about this; many other companies think the same way but don't surface it.)
> Sure, the tech stack might be exciting. Or the product may be compelling. The work-life balance may be good. But I promise you that the biggest reason is still money.
I was always under the impression that for a paid job, the reason of money is assumed. Companies want to hear your other reasons - to show you are at least trying to appreciate what they're about aside from making money. Was the question ever being asked to find the main reason?
Last month I was laid off among many other during this AI race. And I was given something called a score sheet to tell me why I was selected, while the performance score was maximum, I was not not "flexible" enough. The only thing I could think off is the conversation I had with my manager about the direction the company is going towards, but alas they went on a holiday after scoring me.
The companies might want smart and passionate people, but they never want smart, passionate, and honest people. If you don't have a brown tongue, you'll not survive.
You misjudge managers. In my experience, managers want conformity in service of the company. The lie signals the willingness to conform in service of the company.
> Q: Why do you want to work for us?
> A: Because I need the money.
Generalization is dangerous and people want to join groups of other people for many different reasons. Some of them are bored and have nothing better to do with their time. Others are charmed by that particular group of people because of who those people are or the kind of work that they do. A few are interested in moving to a different city or country and expanding their horizons. Making it sound like this is all about money everywhere all the time seems nihilistic and pretty depressing to me. I would not want to work with a person who is doing it just for the money or refuses to give a reason why they wish to join my group. I suppose therein lies the merit of asking "why".
Disclaimer : I never ask these questions, I am a generalist and appreciate knowledge around wide variety of fields instead of hyper focus into one.
But of all the things they could work on, why this team, problem or company? Many jobs will pay similar money.
Some version of this question is extremely helpful in (a) understanding if the candidate is going to be disappointed/not get what they want a few months into the job (b) identifying what motivates them, to help them find fulfllment and growth in their career (part of your job as a manager).
The question assumes that you have a choice of multiple people you could work for.
Why do you want to work for an indie game studio and not EA? Why backend engineer rather than front end? Is there something you see in our company other than money that means you want to stick around for a few years rather than move after a few months?
Ironically the author of the article seems to change jobs every year, so isn’t particularly loyal which is one of the things this question is trying to fish out - will you stay for long enough that you become useful.
It might be that OPs sole motivation is money, but that’s not universally true and is a pretty unattractive trait if it is.
When it has been time to make a career change, I've always had multiple options for which position/company to choose.
I don't think I ever took the offer with the highest total comp.
In a poorer economy where it's hard to find jobs it would be a dumb question as the candidate is probably applying everywhere to make money and pay their rent.
In a place where things are easier financially, the question would make some sense: there might be multiple options, many companies to work for and the candidate is not in immediate desperate need for money, so "why us?" makes sense.
I want to know that you care enough to have done a modicum of research on your new potential employer. And in turn, that you can give a short answer on why you might want to spend 40 some hours a week with us.
If you can't do that, (and it really just is all about the money) then that's just a precursor to a disaster or new future burn out.
If it’s meant as “What about us motivates you to apply?” then that’s a good question.
I do think a lot of older devs don't really just do it for the money anymore. They tend to get more particular and only apply for jobs that they will find personally fulfilling. And that makes answering the question easy. Not that being older makes getting a job at easier, though.
Sure, if a company offers 2x pay, I'm there for the money. But otherwise, asking why they want to work specifically for you is a proper question. And I never came across of the 2x company.
"Why do you want to work?" is a very different question than "Why do you want to work for us?"
Some markets are competitive and require sales (and sales looks very different in different markets). Some markets have differentiated products or services and some markets have fungible commodities. Some markets are under-served and any old product will do, without the need to sell.
Learn your market.
If the candidate is currently jobless, then I agree the question is bad, verging on the insulting. You're probably one of many they are applying to.
Think a teacher/nurse, would you find it ok for them to answer “for the money”.
Another angle to it; you can be professional and explain your goals but also you can’t be desperate, no one likes that, even if you are desperate you need to act professional about that.
I ask this question to every candidate I interview. My expectations for this question are very low.
I find it's a very effective screener for low effort applications. A lot of candidates I interview haven't even looked at our company website.
If you're the kind of person that's doing zero preparation for a job interview, I've already learned something about you.
Many people I interview just answer the question very directly:
- "I got laid off"
- "My current company is returning to office and I want to work from home".
- "I've been working at X for 5 years now and I'm bored"
- "I want to make more money"
- "I want to work with an international team"
.. honestly, that's all totally fine.
I agree that there's no need to pretend about your motivations—I'm not expecting a lot of enthusiasm about writing boring business software at my company.
On the other hand, if you've done some basic research about the company or the role and can ask some good questions—I'm learning something about your intelligence, conscientiousness and self-awareness, which are actually the things I'm testing for.
Job interviews are full of latent variables like this. As an interviewer I want to find out if you're good at X, but I can't just ask "are you good at X?". I need to test you out by asking other questions that demonstrate X.
If you don’t have faith in or care for what you’re producing, it’s unlikely to be successful.
The point of this question is to understand your carrier goals but also to show that you came well prepared and have done your homework about the position and the company. Experience has shown that those who can't give a satisfactory answer to this question are going to a burden to their future team.
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