July 4th, 2024

Wikipedians are hung up on the meaning of Madonna

Wikipedia editors debate whether the page "Madonna" should focus on the singer or Mary, mother of Jesus. Despite historical significance, the singer remains the primary topic due to current usage.

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Wikipedians are hung up on the meaning of Madonna

Wikipedia editors have been engaged in a long-standing debate over the primary topic of the page titled "Madonna." The dispute revolves around whether the page should primarily focus on the singer Madonna or topics related to Mary, mother of Jesus, or serve as a disambiguation page for both. The term "Madonna" historically referred to Mary in Roman Catholic tradition but has become strongly associated with the singer Madonna Ciccone in modern times. Over the years, editors have discussed and argued for the singer's primary status based on factors such as page views and cultural relevance. Despite considerations of historical significance and educational value, the consensus has consistently favored the singer as the primary topic due to high current usage. The ongoing discussions have highlighted the challenges of balancing long-term significance with present-day relevance in determining Wikipedia's primary topics. Ultimately, the singer Madonna has been retained as the primary topic for the term "Madonna" based on the prevailing reader interest and search patterns.

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By @myrmidon - 10 months
I believe that pageview is an extremely poor proxy for relevance, because it is heavily biased towards subjects that are more likely to be looked up (there is a hundred reasons to look up the singer, there are but a few reasons to look up Madonna/Virgin Mary, because its too generic).

Just consider analogously, "House": People look up Gregory House about 4 times more often than "House" as in building, but thats kinda to be expected, and a very obviously insufficient reason for an encyclopedia to link "House" to the TV series by default...

By @squigz - 10 months
This is Wikipedia working as intended. And that's a good thing.
By @samatman - 10 months
Wikipedia should consider becoming an encyclopedia again. That would be nice.