July 6th, 2024

Preserving a floppy disk with a logic analyzer and a serial cable

CHZ-Soft explains preserving floppy disks with a logic analyzer and serial cable. Using Saleae Logic 8, the author automates imaging with Python scripts, exporting data in Supercard Pro format. Successful disk capture showcases setup effectiveness, with suggestions for speed optimization and handling defective disks.

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Preserving a floppy disk with a logic analyzer and a serial cable

CHZ-Soft details a method to preserve floppy disks using a logic analyzer and a serial cable. The author, involved in retro computers, opts to use existing hardware like the Saleae Logic 8 logic analyzer instead of dedicated preservation devices. The article explains the low-level interface of floppy drives, emphasizing the need for encoding schemes due to differences between systems. By connecting the logic analyzer to the drive and a USB serial cable for head movement, the author captures and automates the imaging process using Python scripts. Data is exported in the Supercard Pro (.scp) format for preservation. A test run successfully captures a disk, demonstrating the effectiveness of the setup. The author also highlights the ability to analyze drive characteristics from the captured data. Suggestions for improvement include optimizing the process speed and accommodating defective disks by saving multiple revolutions per track. The article concludes with a link to the author's Python script for reference.

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By @snvzz - 5 months
Appreciate how the article documents the physical side of floppy interface and how a track is selected and read.

Then there's the (several) formats of tracks and sectors, which are left out of scope.

Mature open-source alternatives include GreaseWeazle[0] and FluxEngine[1].

They are also cheap and effective, based on off-the-shelf parts.

0. https://github.com/keirf/greaseweazle/wiki

1. https://cowlark.com/fluxengine/index.html

By @jgalt212 - 5 months
The cheapest Saleae Logic Analyzer costs $499.

https://www.saleae.com/products/saleae-logic-pro-16

A Greaseweazle costs like $35.

That being said, it's always fun to hack around using the tools you have lying around. Put money already spent to good use.

By @beej71 - 5 months
I would pay excellent money to get my hands on the floppies that held my childhood programs. They're long gone.

So if you're just getting started today, I recommend you keep copies of everything you do. It's fun to go back and look at, and maintaining those copies is a lot easier to do than it was in the 80s.

By @ck2 - 5 months
Fun-fact the last floppy disc was made in 2011

Also the BBC seems to be running an odd number of floppy stories lately?

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240510-floppy-disks-why...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx82407j1v3o

By @ThomasBb - 5 months
Reminds me of the applesauce project for Apple ][ disks; https://overcast.fm/+BRm0EGSWs
By @asdefghyk - 5 months
Would not the best way to scan a deteriorating? floppy disks is with a magnetic flux measuring tool that flies very close to surface of floppy , but not touching the floppy. Recording the analogue signal, generated a require a big storage space .....
By @silvestrov - 5 months
The graphs would be easier to read for somebody not already familiar with floppy drives if the signals (e.g. Step, Index0) were marked with direction, i.e. is it input to the FD or output from it.
By @pshirshov - 5 months
This is extremely cool, but isn't imdisk supposed to do the same?