July 9th, 2024

OpenAI pleads it can't make money with o using copyrighted material for free

OpenAI requests British Parliament to permit copyrighted material for AI training. Facing legal challenges from NYT and Authors Guild for alleged copyright infringement. Debate impacts AI development and copyright protection, raising concerns for content creators.

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OpenAI pleads it can't make money with o using copyrighted material for free

OpenAI is pleading with the British Parliament to allow the use of copyrighted materials for training its AI models, stating it's impossible to develop leading AI models without them. The company argues that relying solely on public domain content would not meet the needs of today's AI systems. However, this plea has faced opposition, with the New York Times and the Authors Guild suing OpenAI for alleged copyright infringement and commercial exploitation. OpenAI claims to comply with copyright laws and is exploring new publisher partnerships. The debate highlights the tension between AI development and copyright protection, with concerns raised about the impact on authors' livelihoods. The outcome of this dispute could have significant implications for the future of AI training practices and the rights of content creators.

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By @dougb5 - 3 months
Regarding "it would be impossible to train today's leading AI models": OpenAI has a pattern of equating humanity's progress with their own progress in their corporate communication.

A similar instance that bugs me is on the documentation page for their GPTBot scraper (https://platform.openai.com/docs/gptbot) where they say "Allowing GPTBot to access your site can help AI models become more accurate". Strange wording, given that is specifically OpenAI's models you're allowing, not "AI models" in general.

The goal is both cases is to make you feel like you're standing in the way of progress by objecting.

By @scohesc - 3 months
If the Internet Archive makes a whoopsie with loaning out books they didn't have the license or permission to and gets sued into the ground by publishers, then OpenAI shouldn't have been/be allowed to use and process copyrighted material either.

OpenAI is actively receiving money from funders and (potentially, maybe, eventually will) make money by using others' copyrighted content at a much larger potential than what the Internet Archive was doing.

OpenAI should not have permission to soullessly suck up copyrighted material and use it to make money.

On the other hand, other countries who don't place ethical/moral/fiscal priority on creating and protecting copyrighted works will eat the wests' lunch when it comes to AI as there's no limitation that's preventing them from consuming the content.

Not sure what the answer is - maybe copyright is an archaic idea/belief built and maintained by a once well-intended, now corrupted economic system that needs a bit of a shakeup anyways...

By @AnimalMuppet - 3 months
So? Making money is not a legal right. Copyright is. If you can't make money without misappropriating copyrighted material, then you can't make money that way.
By @hulitu - 3 months
> OpenAI pleads it can't make money with o using copyrighted material for free

Then it shouldn't. Bloody profitors.

By @mediumsmart - 3 months
I don't know if the concept of an AI that I can ask things is feasible on cc-zero training but it would be nice.