July 10th, 2024

AMD to buy Finnish startup Silo AI for $665M in drive to compete with Nvidia

AMD acquires Finnish start-up Silo AI for $665 million to boost AI services, compete with Nvidia. Silo AI's 300-member team will enhance AMD's AI tech stack with custom large language models.

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AMD to buy Finnish startup Silo AI for $665M in drive to compete with Nvidia

AMD has announced the acquisition of Finnish start-up Silo AI for $665 million, marking one of the largest takeovers in Europe. The move is part of AMD's strategy to expand its artificial intelligence services and compete with Nvidia. Silo AI's team of 300 members will leverage their software tools to develop custom large language models (LLMs), crucial for AI technologies like chatbots. The acquisition, expected to close in the second half of the year, aims to accelerate customer engagements and enhance AMD's AI tech stack. Silo AI, known for its tailored AI models and platforms, has been working on building LLMs in European languages. This deal reflects AMD's effort to scale its business rapidly and strengthen its AI offerings. The acquisition aligns with the trend of semiconductor companies focusing on software to complement their hardware offerings and generate more stable revenues. Nvidia, AMD's competitor, has been successful in the AI market with its proprietary software platform, Cuda, and a range of pre-trained models. The acquisition of Silo AI positions AMD to better compete in the AI landscape and drive innovation in the field.

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By @helsinkiandrew - 5 months
By @mastax - 5 months
I’d argue that a factor in CUDA’s success is their army of in-house researchers which use CUDA to do novel things. Sometimes those things get turned into products (OptiX) other times they are essentially DevRel to show off what the hardware can do and documentation for how to do it. Additionally I’m sure they use pre-release hardware and software and give feedback about how to improve it.

I don’t know what AMD has in mind for this acquisition but I could see there being a lot of value having an in house LLM team to create models for customers to build on, run in benchmarks, and improve their products.

By @thenaturalist - 5 months
Huge congratulations to the founders and what a nice mark for the European (and Nordirc) startup community.

It's gonna be quite interesting to see if this works out strategically.

I guess the bet is an in-house army of PhDs vs. having a CUDA - which you don't as a second mover here - and assuming PhDs tightly coupled with the hardware can outperform an open framework/ push Triton to parity to CUDA over time.

By @SSLy - 5 months
My cursory understanding is that Silo is a developer of LLMs that run on top of compute platforms. Isn't the problem with no one using AMD's accelerators the fact that their programming environment is sub-par compared to CUDA, or even Apple's?
By @littlecranky67 - 5 months
I've been thinking that NVDA stock is massively overpriced - yes, AI is a hot topic, but their only advantage is the software stack. It is just a matter of time until Intel and AMD realize that they should join hands and do an open-source CUDA alternative for their respecitve GPUs (yes, Intel has competetive GPUs and just like AMD and Nvidia they will try to get a share of the AI chip market share).
By @baobabKoodaa - 5 months
Happy to see this acquisition landing in Finland, but I have to wonder how the purchase price is justified. Silo AI is primarily a consulting company doing "traditional" kinds of AI consulting projects. Their LLM project is like a side hustle for the company.
By @_flux - 5 months
Nice to see AMD finally doing something about competing in the compute market (LLM being the hottest thing at the moment)!

Though apparently MI300X is a fine product as well. But it still needs code.

By @vegabook - 5 months
This is an indictment of Lisa Su's own ROCm strategy. An implicit admission of failure, without explicitly admitting it. I predict this acquisition will cause even more software schizophreny inside AMD as multiple conflicting teams pinball their way around towards nowhere in particular.
By @samuell - 5 months
By @jacobgorm - 5 months
This happened after Silo trained an LLM on the AMD-powered LUMI supercomputer.
By @pavlov - 5 months
The economic mood in Finland is downright depressed [1]. This kind of news is therefore extremely welcome because it indicates there's a way forward, out of the old industry doldrums where people are still moaning about closed paper mills and Nokia's failure 15 years ago.

$665M USD isn't a staggering number by Silicon Valley standards, but it's very significant for a nation of five million people that hasn't seen global startup successes like neighboring Sweden with Spotify and others.

[1] The actual level of depression is somewhat hard to track because Finns are always pessimistic regardless of how well they're doing. (This also makes them the happiest people on Earth in polls. The situation right now is never quite as bad as one had expected beforehand, so when a pollster calls to ask, the conclusion must be that they're pretty happy with things overall at that specific moment, but surely everything is going in the wrong direction anyway.)

By @non-e-moose - 5 months
Former AMD employee here (2007-2012) AMD 'dropped the ball' BADLY when (2012) then-VP Ben Bar-Haim decided to do a software purge, and focused on retaining the over-bureaucratic folks of ATI/Markham. Net result: NVidia was (and did) pick up a lot of very smart researchers and developers from AMD (I know of a couple whom were thoroughly disgusted with AMD management at that time)

He also trashed a lot of good and useful software projects for seemingly protectionist reasons (if it wasn't ATI/Markham, it was dumped)

By @trhway - 5 months
$2M/head. That is a steal, even by European standards.

"In July 2024, Silo AI has 300+ employees out of which 125+ hold a PhD degree."

By @high_na_euv - 5 months
What are they going to give AMD that they are priced this high?
By @mindcrime - 5 months
I don't know how this specific acquisition is going to work out, but at least we can say one thing. This represents some kind of response to the constant chorus of "AMD don't appreciate the importance of software. AMD should invest more in software. CUDA, CUDA, CUDA" comments that one always hears when AMD is mentioned.

Of course there's room to debate the details here: would they have, perhaps, been better off investing that money in their existing software team(s)? Or spinning up (a) new team(s) from scatch? Who's to say. But at least it show some intention on their behalf to beef up their software stance, and generally speaking that feels like a positive step to me.

But then again, I'm an AMD fan boi who is invested in the ROCm ecosystem, so I'm not entirely unbiased. But I think the overall point stands, regardless of that.

By @Aaronstotle - 5 months
This and the MI300x makes me hopeful for AMD
By @daghamm - 5 months
Since FT is paywalled and the press release link from Silo is currently pointig to nowhere:

https://www.silo.ai/blog/amd-to-acquire-silo-ai-to-expand-en...

I've no idea what is going on. This is 5 times bigger than their combined AI acquisitions in the last 12 months. The only link between Silo and AMD is that Silo has been using an AMD accelerator cluster for training.

By @getcrunk - 5 months
I’m still pissed they finally brought rocm support to their Gpgus on windows starting with the 6800xt … I have the 6700xt
By @hiddencost - 4 months
This seems like a pure acquire, and not at a good price? $2M/head with a four year lock in isn't great.
By @woadwarrior01 - 5 months
Looks like a consulting company[1] at first glance. Also, empty HuggingFace account[2].

[1]: https://www.silo.ai/ [2]: https://huggingface.co/SiloAI

By @wantsanagent - 5 months
I'm curious how this deal happened. There are a lot of LLM shops out there, how did this nordic co get the attention of AMD and why did they think this co stood out among the crowd.
By @Workaccount2 - 5 months
Imagine AMD simply put that $665M into tooling and driver development. The stock probably would have doubled.
By @yoouareperfect - 5 months
If AMD and Intel team up on soft to replace CUDA, then I'm selling all my NVDA stock and even shorting it short term
By @dst_ - 4 months
I’m quite surprised about this acquisition (and it’s scale) for a few reasons:

1. It’s a consulting firm and not a product shop, so you’re only paying for people, although they’ve from the start tried really hard to brand themselves as a startup.

2. They’ve been training an LLM, but mainly with tax payer money using a government super computer (that uses AMD chips), which is arguably their only product, but completely open source.

3. Some of the founders are well-connected in Finland which has given them a seat (and visibility) in goverment initiatives, but this is mainly BS.

4. They have the least rigorous hiring process I’ve ever witnessed.

I remember checking them out in 2018 when I was looking into switching companies. Back then when I checked their folks on LinkedIn, the prior experience in AI most of their people had was taking a few Coursera courses.

Later they called me and asked me about joining and I’ve never had an interview where no one asked anything technical beyond what I’ve worked on.

I also hope employees get something out of this, because their offer was a revenue share on billed hours and no mention of equity. However, my understanding is that they had a large investment from private equity (Altor), so the mission was to make the PE company money and not the employees.

They’ve allowed part-time offers where you still keep working at a university, so I assume this has been quite interesting for many researchers, i.e. you get paid some on top of the crappy university pay and you also get to see real problems that companies have.

By @rasz - 4 months
Will work just as great as $1.9B USD Pensando acquisition, or $334m SeaMicro.
By @karlzt - 4 months
I wonder why it is 665 instead of 666?
By @hi - 5 months
Anyone know a timeline for AMD on MLPerf?
By @nashashmi - 5 months
Amd once bought an ARM server manufacturer. It went down the tubes. I don’t think this will work either.
By @bot0047 - 5 months
If nVidia is IBM then AMD could be the next Microsoft.
By @hmaxwell - 5 months
This is a nothing burger compared to amazon and google giving $4b and $2b respectively to Anthropic
By @uptownfunk - 5 months
Smells fishy anti trust
By @lopkeny12ko - 5 months
Wow. I hope this is blocked by the DoJ on antitrust grounds.