July 13th, 2024

Houston area frustrated as it enters 6th day without power, AC in punishing heat

Hundreds of thousands in southeast Texas endure sixth day without power post-Hurricane Beryl, seeking shelters, food, and water. CenterPoint Energy faces backlash as pregnant residents and half a million customers remain affected.

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Houston area frustrated as it enters 6th day without power, AC in punishing heat

Hundreds of thousands of southeast Texas residents are enduring a sixth day without power and air conditioning following Hurricane Beryl, leading to a scramble for cool shelters, food, and water. The outages have left hospitals, schools, and water treatment plants struggling for resources, sparking frustration towards the main utility provider, CenterPoint Energy. Pregnant residents like Jordyn Rush are particularly affected, facing sleep deprivation and health concerns. CenterPoint Energy aims to restore power to 350,000 customers by Sunday, but half a million may remain without power until next week. The situation has led to dangerous consequences, including carbon monoxide poisoning from generator use. The US Department of Health and Human Services declared a public health emergency for Texas due to the severe heat and limited electricity access. The crisis has reignited concerns over the state's power grid, prompting investigations and criticism towards utility providers. Displaced residents like Destinee Rideaux are facing hardships reminiscent of previous natural disasters, highlighting the ongoing challenges faced by vulnerable populations in the region.

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By @RheingoldRiver - 3 months
I was there last weekend & for the day of the hurricane. This was just a cat 1 hurricane at the time it passed through Houston, and there was SO much damage. I can't imagine the city is remotely prepared for (god forbid, and idk how likely it is that far inland anyway) a cat 4 or 5. We were staying in a hotel that had a backup generator, but every single other building that was visible from our hotel had lost power during the storm.

Everyone I talked to in the area lost power at home for at least a day, and many people said they expected to lose power for a full week.

I'm interested if anyone familiar with the local state of the grid knows whose "fault" the enormous turnaround time in restoring power is:

* Not enough employees at the electrical companies

* Infrastructure regulation (e.g. requiring buried lines in critical areas) is insufficient in Houston specifically

* Infrastructure regulation is insufficient in Texas specifically

* (or nationally? are there national guidelines for the power grid in various weather-prone areas?)

* The Texas grid being separate from the rest of the country's

* Other??

By @Molitor5901 - 3 months
Deregulation is a terrible idea for life supporting and necessary utilities, power specifically. By deregulating the market, everyone is forced to compete for a finite amount of transmission ability for low profits, each one trying to undercut the other IMO. It completely destabilized the Texas power market. At this point, it may be worth considering putting the Texas power grid into some type of federal receivership.
By @Scoutmaster - 3 months
Yesterday I spoke with a Generac (home standby generator) dealership owner in the Houston area, and they are getting swamped with calls (80 a minute at times) and they have 20 people manning the phones.

One of the problems I see is that people aren't prepared. I live my life by the motto "Be Prepared" (see username). One of the Merit Badges I teach is Emergency Preparedness, and with camping, my Scouts are okay going without electricity and electronics. Even if you're not interested or able to participate in Scouting, swing by your local Scout Shop and pick up an Emergency Preparedness Merit Badge booklet and learn what you can do to Be Prepared. It doesn't extend to just hurricanes.

By @jmyeet - 3 months
Note: this isn't a power grid issue. Texas is famously not connected to the national grid [1]. This is an issue of downed power lines.

An obvious question is: why doesn't Houston have underground power? It turns out that Houston really shouldn't exist. It's built on a swamp. It's also hot so heat dissipation is an issue. So it's expensive [2]. Houston is also famous for its lack of zoning [3]. Combine this with a lot of really old neighbourhoods that don't, for example, have sufficient setbacks to bury cabling and you have a hot mess.

It's also worth pointing out that Houston is one of the worst urban sprawls on the planet. It's almost as large as LA with slightly more than half the population.

It's accurate to describe Houston as a low-lying car-dependent hellscape built on a swarmp with no urban planning in a hurricane zone.

[1]: https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2021-07-22/texas-elec...

[2]: https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2024/05/24/burying-...

[3]: https://therealdeal.com/texas/2023/03/16/dont-say-the-z-word...

By @KingOfCoders - 3 months
Germany has overengineered and expensive utilities, but I'm happy sometimes that all power and telephone lines are underground.
By @S_A_P - 3 months
I was directly hit by Beryl, and just got power back today. For us, the issue was trees taking out the power lines. We live on acreage with a lot of pecan trees, and lost 4 of them in the storm. 2 of them toppled over on the power line. I personally don't think that Centerpoint has done a bad job here, Houston is a large land mass and there is no way that you can get everyone back online with as much wind damage as we sustained much quicker than what happened. This storm was so much different than Harvey, which was a flood event. We did have some flooding but nowhere near that level with Beryl. Really, its just one of those situations that just sucks, and there isnt a whole lot you can really do about it.
By @bob1029 - 3 months
My power was out until ~4am today.

Incredibly, my fiber internet never went down the entire time. That part of my infrastructure is buried and they back it all up with proper generators.

By @gunapologist99 - 3 months
In spite of (or perhaps because of) the constant repairs after a major storm every 10 to 15 years, Houston actually has one of the lowest energy costs in the United States: https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/data/averageenergyprices...

For some real numbers for Houston specifically in the middle of the hot summer months, input 77002 (a Houston metro zip code) into Texas govt's electricity provider search engine https://powertochoose.org/ ; it will show most plans are around 12-14 cents per kwh, down to 10.9 c/kwh on a variable 12 month 500kWh plan.

By @dang - 3 months
Recent and related:

Houston Is on a Path to an All-Out Power Crisis - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40951647 - July 2024 (68 comments)

By @spamizbad - 3 months
Why is Texas infrastructure so brittle? It’s a wealthy, prosperous state unencumbered by regulation or legacy stuff that tends to cause issues in other states.
By @kkfx - 3 months
My two takes:

- due to climate change alone AND business predatory practice alone infrastructure are very vulnerable and there is no easy fix at infra level;

- p.v. and batteries for large slices of the inhabited planet where they are meaningful AT CHINESE PRICES are an expensive backup that can pay back itself even without emergencies.

Corollary: doing our best to annihilate companies who makes absurdly high margins on p.v. and batteries and do individually our best to be covered. Personally I eat my fingers a bit when 4 years ago I decide for a small (8kWh LFP) backup with only 5kWp p.v. instead of 10kWp/30kWh witch would give me enough also in winter in case of a blackouts. In summer I can be autonomous since local climate is hot only during the day, no need of A/C from early evening to mid-morning.

Corollary of the corollary: built modern well insulated homes is needed, not only to consume less as a whole society but also to live well individually.

By @adolph - 3 months
Something that did go well is water movement. It was neat to see the bayous rise to just below the flood point then stay right there as the weirs of flood mitigation ponds take off the excess. I’m looking forward to checking out the data to compare the rain/flood gauges compared to past events. [0] Thank you federal tax payers for contributing to this effort!

WRT the local utility, I can appreciate that they have some hard choices ahead. There are two branches of possible futures: one where many more people are charging cars etc and require more power to domiciles; two where battery deployment at the edge bears the brunt of peak loads and requires a lower constant trickle or even nearly nothing as PV is more broadly deployed.

0. https://www.harriscountyfws.org/

By @kazinator - 3 months
> “Seniors in assisted living and nursing homes should have been more of a priority for power restoration.”

That shows a gaping misunderstanding of electricity.

For that to be possible in this situation, the assisted living and nursing homes would have to have their own, dedicated power plant that is knocked out by a hurricane, separate from the knocked-out power plants for anything else. Then you prioritize fixing that power plant first.

That would require them to be on their own dedicated circuits, separate from everything else in the same city block. And for the problem to be local to them, and not the outage of a big power station far away.

Idea: maybe these homes should have their own wind, solar and generators, not to be 100% reliant on the grid.

By @xyst - 3 months
I’m surprised people still live in that area. The aftermath of Harvey in 2017 would have been the eye opener. Yet the area sees a massive influx of residents every year [1]

Any area near coast line is going to disappear over the next couple of decades due to climate change.

[1] https://www.axios.com/local/houston/2024/03/19/texas-populat...

By @ChrisArchitect - 3 months
Related:

Houston Is on a Path to an All-Out Power Crisis

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40951647

By @ndr42 - 3 months
I‘m curious, Texas seems to get a lot of sun - how common are private solar installations on the roofs? Combined with a battery you could lower your electricity bill and would be safe from this kind of problem.

In my neighbourhood in northern germany about 5% of the houses have them. They pay for themself in about 5-10 years.

edit: spelling

By @ryzvonusef - 3 months
Are roof top solar panels able to survive hurricanes?

I think for a rich sunny region like texas, best answer is resiliant microgrids with rooftop solar and powerwalls.

By @mouse_ - 3 months
frustrated seems like an understatement
By @gigatexal - 3 months
Not angry enough to get their elected officials to make the power grid changes needed to make it more robust to such things.

I mean how can they when reps like Ted Cruz fly off to Cancun when the weather gets really bad.

By @dingosity - 3 months
Just imagine how horrible this would be if climate change were real.
By @wnevets - 3 months
texas and not having power go together like a horse and carriage
By @Sam713 - 3 months
I just got power back late last night (6th day of outage). This comes directly on the heels of a prior power outage that also lasted nearly a week from a severe storm back in May. CNP seems to have majorly dropped the ball on this one from a logistics and disaster preparedness standpoint (especially considering they had a trial run only 2 months ago). Unlike the storm in May, a) Beryl was forecasted to impact Houston at least 24 hrs beforehand, b) its hurricane season so CNP should be ready to go. They routinely seem to lag behind on electrical grid improvements and maintenance. From my personal observations, a lot of outages could have been prevented by better tree management. (Anecdotally, I had a tree catch fire behind my house last year due to limbs contacting lines; I called CNP to report and they did nothing; said to watch it and let it burn out. They haven’t trimmed trees on the line behind my house in the 4 years i’ve lived here). With Beryl, it has become painfully apparent that CNP was simply not logistically prepared to handle the impact of hurricanes, and did not prepare in advance, a major failure for a utility provider operating on the gulf coast. These are not black swan events.

Root cause seems to point towards prioritizing shareholder value over providing services, and lack of regulation enabled by Texas laissez-faire handling of utility providers.

A short timeline: In 2014 CNP reported ‘excess revenue’ but were allowed to keep it https://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/2014/10/20/texas-puc-leave....

In 2020 a major activist investor put a large stake in CNP https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2015/12/14/billiona.... The owner of that private equity group also happens to be a major donor to the political party of the current Texas governor, who appoints the commissioners who regulate public utilities (https://theintercept.com/2020/10/15/paul-singer-hedge-fund-r...).

Texas electric utilities are regulated in theory, but in practice this regulation seems lax or at least not proactive. This was readily apparent in the 2021 freeze (Uri): https://www.statesman.com/story/business/2021/10/21/texas-re...

And later in 2021 CNP also made direct political donations to Texas politicians: https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/04/texas-energy-industr....

It doesn’t seem like Texas has done much to improve regulation since the 2021 failure. https://www.tpr.org/environment/2022-11-17/texas-lawmakers-a...

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-southwest/why...

It’s hard to see how these apparent conflicts of interest (and lack of regulation or consequences) don’t create an environment where a state supported monopoly can abuse their position by putting short term profits first.

By @Mindless2112 - 3 months
TL;DR:

> “The grid is a whole different issue which we’re addressing, have been addressing, and will continue to address,” Patrick said. “The power is down because the lines are down, and the transmission lines are down primarily because trees fell on them.”

By @more_corn - 3 months
Get rooftop solar and a battery.
By @epolanski - 3 months
To me it's crazy people run so much AC at home.

It's like making global warming a worse problem with AC, so it gets hotter and we use more AC.

I live in Rome, Italy, we had 40C (104F) degree max temperatures during day, and even at night it doesn't fall below 29C (84) and we survive without AC just fine, not just me but the rest of my family in their houses too, of course it is sometimes uncomfortable, but that's summer.

The worst offenders though are the many shops that blast AC 24/7 and have their doors open! Put some goddamn sensors and sliding doors!?

I just can't look at it. Even worse, electricity comes and goes all time during summer and it's hard to work at times (I'm full remote).

I'm fully convinced nobody gives two damns about global warming and our own impact. It's better to just ignore our actions and focus on evil corporations so we keep avoiding doing anything, maybe buy and change our EVs every 3/4 years as it didn't make it worse.