July 31st, 2024

Tesla in Seattle-area crash that killed motorcyclist was using FSD system

A Tesla using "Full Self Driving" was involved in a fatal crash near Seattle, leading to the driver's arrest for vehicular homicide. The investigation continues regarding potential charges.

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Tesla in Seattle-area crash that killed motorcyclist was using FSD system

Authorities in Washington have confirmed that a Tesla involved in a fatal crash with a motorcyclist near Seattle in April was operating on the company's "Full Self Driving" system at the time. The investigation, conducted by the Washington State Patrol, revealed this after analyzing data from the vehicle's event-data recorder. The driver of the Tesla admitted to using the Autopilot system and looking at his cellphone while driving, leading to the collision that resulted in the death of 28-year-old Jeffrey Nissen. The driver has been arrested on suspicion of vehicular homicide due to his admitted distraction and reliance on the automated system. This incident marks at least the second fatality in the U.S. linked to Tesla's "Full Self-Driving" technology, which has been under scrutiny by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Tesla's systems, including "Full Self-Driving" and Autopilot, are designed to assist drivers but require human oversight at all times. CEO Elon Musk has expressed confidence in the future of autonomous driving, suggesting that the technology could operate without human supervision soon, although experts caution that widespread deployment of fully autonomous vehicles may still be years away. Musk is also set to unveil a dedicated robotaxi vehicle in October, a project that has been delayed for modifications. The ongoing investigation will determine if any charges will be filed against the driver involved in the crash.

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By @langsoul-com - 9 months
The illusion of self driving is super dangerous.

People completely check out, like this person, playing on their phone. And then an avoidable accident happens, this one being fatal.

By @pityJuke - 9 months
Tesla Autopilot Crashes into Motorcycle Riders - Why?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRdzIs4FJJg

This continues to be an excellent video.

By @darthrupert - 9 months
I sometimes give the fsd a try for just keeping the car in lane. It's so wobbly and uncertain and does weird choices all the fucking time.

Based on my experience, I think people who use the full fsd for driving longer trips should definitely lose their license to drive. Perhaps some day the system will work reliably, but not today.

By @magicalhippo - 9 months
And yesterday a human driver rear-ended and drove over an acquaintance who was on a motorcycle.

Somehow didn't see the motorcycle break. Not a Tesla.

Fortunately only broken bones and material damage.

That said I think it's shocking that Tesla hasn't been slapped hard by authorities for calling their current system "full self driving".

It might be the hardware is FSD-ready once they figure out the software, but as long as it requires supervision it just should not be called "full self driving".

By @Hamuko - 9 months
How well do traditional adaptive cruise control systems, that use radars and which the likes of Mercedes-Benz and BMW have been using for a couple of decades, detect motorcycles ahead of the car?
By @imtringued - 9 months
Partial full self driving supervised.
By @drawnablank - 9 months
So much FUD whenever an article is about Tesla. As per the article -

"the driver told a trooper that he was using Tesla’s Autopilot system and looked at his cellphone while the Tesla was moving."

Does this mean that it wasn't actually FSD and was just Autopilot? The article, which mentions how people confuse Autopilot and FSD, seems to confuse them itself.