July 31st, 2024

Reddit CEO says Microsoft needs to pay to search the site

Reddit CEO Steve Huffman stated that companies like Microsoft must pay for accessing Reddit's data, criticizing them for scraping without permission and highlighting changing dynamics in content usage and compensation.

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Reddit CEO says Microsoft needs to pay to search the site

Reddit CEO Steve Huffman has stated that Microsoft and other companies need to pay for accessing Reddit's data, following agreements made with Google and OpenAI. Huffman criticized Microsoft, Anthropic, and Perplexity for scraping Reddit's data without permission, describing the situation as challenging for Reddit. He noted that the platform has updated its robots.txt file to block web crawlers lacking agreements, leading to Reddit results being visible only on Google, where Reddit is compensated. Huffman accused Microsoft of using Reddit's data to train its AI and summarizing content in Bing results without consent, while also selling this data through the Bing API. In response to Reddit's results disappearing from Bing, Microsoft claimed it respects website directives regarding content usage. Huffman emphasized that the traditional value exchange between search engines and content providers is changing, as the lines between search, summarization, and training blur. He pointed to OpenAI's SearchGPT, which includes Reddit results due to a licensing deal, as a model for future agreements. Huffman’s comments align with a broader trend among media publishers seeking compensation for their content used in generative AI. Spokespeople for Microsoft, Anthropic, and Perplexity did not provide comments on the matter by the time of publication.

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By @7bit - 6 months
> Without these agreements, we don’t have any say or knowledge of how our data is displayed and what it’s used for ...

I know that per EULA (or whatever it's called) the contributions we do on reddit become their data. However, reading statements like these still leave a sour taste in my mouth, without the people's discussions and contributions, they wouldn't have anything to sell for profit.

By @GoToRO - 6 months
They can buy it, just like they did with GitHub, LinkedIn. You need data to train those AI models.
By @marcuskane2 - 6 months
Reddit will in turn be paying the people who posted the content, right?