August 1st, 2024

The Nature of Consciousness

Christof Koch's book "Then I Am Myself the World" examines consciousness, emphasizing the posterior hot zone's role in self-awareness and sensory experiences, while cautioning about AI's potential for consciousness.

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The Nature of Consciousness

In his new book, "Then I Am Myself the World," Christof Koch explores the nature of consciousness, emphasizing the importance of understanding who can experience life consciously, especially in the context of advancing AI technologies. Koch, a physicist and neuroscientist, identifies the posterior hot zone in the neocortex as crucial for self-awareness and sensory experiences. He advocates for integrated information theory (IIT), which posits that consciousness arises from a system's ability to influence itself, contrasting this with the more linear structures found in other brain regions like the cerebellum. Koch argues that while the cerebellum has numerous neurons, its design limits self-influence, making it less likely to produce consciousness. He presents evidence that injuries to the posterior hot zone can significantly alter a person's sensory perception, while damage to the cerebellum does not eliminate self-awareness. Koch is cautious about the potential for artificial systems to achieve consciousness, noting that current AI lacks the high connectivity found in human brains. His writing is enriched with references to various thinkers and artists, making complex ideas more relatable. Koch's work invites readers to reflect on the essence of consciousness and its implications in a world increasingly influenced by AI.

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By @mannykannot - 7 months
Does this mean that artificial computer systems, wired appropriately, can be conscious? Not necessarily, Koch says. This might one day be possible with the advent of new technology, but we are not there yet. He writes. “The high connectivity [in a human brain] is very different from that found in the central processing unit of any digital computer, where one transistor typically connects to a handful of other transistors.” For the foreseeable future, AI systems will remain unconscious despite appearances to the contrary.

I think one would have to be unaware of the ability of simple Turing-equivalent machines to simulate devices of much greater complexity than themselves in order to find this argument persuasive. We see here that Koch is a fan of IIT; can he show one machine with a high IIT score that cannot be simulated by a simple (though sufficiently-sized) Turing-equivalent computer, possibly abetted with a source of entropy?

By @bbor - 7 months
As someone who spends a lot of time on this subject, and disagrees with this person passionately: great article, and a fascinating addition to the field! The critic (who triple majored?!) has her site + newsletter at the bottom, I'm certainly giving it a chance.

I was going to quote-dunk a bunch of it, but I think it's beyond the point -- no one's going to be convinced on the scientific validity of "consciousness" in this thread alone. I will say that I recommend Patricia Churchland's Neurophilosophy and Noam Chomsky's [Language and The Mind](https://www.ugr.es/~fmanjon/Language%20and%20Mind.pdf) for scientifically-minded views that don't share this persons goal.

By @keybored - 7 months
> Unraveling how consciousness arises out of particular configurations of organic matter is a quest that has absorbed scientists and philosophers for ages. Now, with AI systems behaving in strikingly conscious-looking ways, it is more important than ever to get a handle on who and what is capable of experiencing life on a conscious level.

Lord give me strength.

> Koch suggests that exercise, meditation, and the occasional guided psychedelic might be beneficial to many people. Substances such as psilocybin can enhance one’s feeling of well-being and facilitate pure presence. It is rare to have a close brush with death, and mystical transformations typically come unbidden; in contrast, psychoactive substances—though not entirely predictable—are more consistently available and can be managed safely. Koch’s book implies that there’s immense psychological benefit of entering "the flow" through chemistry that might outweigh the small risks involved.

This is cool. I like that he considers states of consciousness for the everyman and is not talking about philosophical zombies (Angels on a Pinhead for the modern age).

By @Workaccount2 - 7 months
IIT is like the string theory of Neuroscience.

Lots of people putting weight behind it, but also with a degree of hubris similar to the string theory guys of the late 90's. But just like string theory, it also has a lot of fair criticism and is mostly still in the hypothesis phase.

By @swayvil - 7 months
In articles like this our study of consciousness is strongly colored by our preference for thinking and writing. And that's arguably unavoidable, being thinkers in a society and such, but there you go.

A "clearer" study would require starting from some kind of zero. But nobody wants to go live in a cave and whoever did might not be inclined to write an article about it.

By @anthk - 7 months
A few days ago I was reading a pop science magazine from Spain (this month was as a special issue about the brain/consciusness) and Koch was mentioned. Someone call Peat/Jung. JK, network effect at work, for sure.

On consciousness, I'm interested on the integrated information theory.

By @waldrews - 7 months
How are people still publishing books without audiobook versions? What, are we supposed to read with our eyes, like animals?
By @ypeterholmes - 7 months
“The high connectivity [in a human brain] is very different from that found in the central processing unit of any digital computer, where one transistor typically connects to a handful of other transistors.”

Has he been living under a rock? Modern AI models already outpace the connectivity of the human brain, and are only getting bigger.