August 5th, 2024

Uncovered Euripides fragments are 'kind of a big deal'

Two University of Colorado Boulder scholars discovered significant fragments of lost tragedies by Euripides, revealing new content from "Polyidus" and "Ino," enhancing understanding of classical literature.

Read original articleLink Icon
ExcitementNostalgiaCuriosity
Uncovered Euripides fragments are 'kind of a big deal'

Two scholars from the University of Colorado Boulder have identified significant new fragments of lost tragedies by the ancient Greek playwright Euripides, marking the most important discovery in this area in over fifty years. The fragments were found on a papyrus sent by Basem Gehad, an archaeologist from the Egyptian Ministry of Tourism and Antiquities, which was excavated from the ancient site of Philadelphia in Egypt. The scholars, Yvona Trnka-Amrhein and John Gibert, spent months analyzing the papyrus, which contains 98 lines, and confirmed that it includes previously unknown material from two plays, "Polyidus" and "Ino." While 22 lines were known in different versions, approximately 80 percent of the content is new.

"Polyidus" recounts a Cretan myth where the seer Polyidus revives the son of King Minos, while "Ino" presents a new plot twist involving the titular character as a victim rather than a villain. The findings are set to be presented at the Ninth Fountain Symposium at CU Boulder, featuring discussions with experts in the field. The scholars are preparing to share their work at various institutions, including Dartmouth and Harvard, and are eager for feedback from the academic community. This discovery not only enriches the understanding of Euripides' work but also highlights the ongoing relevance of classical studies.

AI: What people are saying
The discovery of lost tragedies by Euripides has generated excitement and discussion among commenters.
  • Many express enthusiasm for the significance of the find and its potential impact on classical literature.
  • Commenters reflect on the scarcity of surviving works from ancient playwrights, noting the vast number of lost plays.
  • Some share personal connections to Euripides' works, quoting lines or discussing their favorite plays.
  • There are mentions of related literary works and projects, highlighting ongoing interest in classical themes.
  • Technical curiosity arises regarding the methods used to recover and analyze the fragments.
Link Icon 12 comments
By @dmvdoug - 6 months
As a Classics major in college and with continuing love for that decaying old grande dame of a discipline, this is pretty cool and I hope the identification holds up to scrutiny (because it would be a big deal).

Then there’s this:

The two scholars have also recently discovered the upper half of a colossal statue of the ancient Egyptian Pharaoh Ramesses II in their joint excavation project at Hermopolis Magna.

Percy Bysshe Shelley is practically shouting from the grave.

I MET A TRAVELER FROM AN ANTIQUE LAND…

By @lordleft - 6 months
My favorite play is the Herakles of Euripides, which ends on these lines:

    The man who would prefer great wealth or strength

    more than love, more than friends

    is diseased of soul
By @rwmj - 6 months
There's such a volume of lost plays. Athens held annual festivals where you'd have perhaps 20 tragedies and 5 comedies over 5 days[1]. That's just one city state. Only 32 full plays survive.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysia

Edit: Reading the article, I'm surprised they don't seem to have done any computer-based textual analysis of the authorship. We have other plays attributed to Euripides so matching 98 lines of text shouldn't be too difficult.

By @bjornsing - 6 months
I named my home server (that I mostly run machine learning experiments on) euripides, because I found a quote by him very insightful: “Man’s most valuable trait is a judicious sense of what not to believe.”
By @alexpotato - 6 months
> Using the Thesaurus Linguae Graecae, a comprehensive, digitized database of ancient Greek texts maintained by the University of California, Irvine

I always love to hear about a school or organization that says "Hey everyone! We are going to store the central digital index and database of the thing we care about. Come check it out!"

By @mtsolitary - 6 months
Euripedes fragments, Youpayfordes fragments!
By @loughnane - 6 months
It's really a miracle that we have as much as we do from antiquity, but I'm still excited whenever something new comes uip.
By @gadders - 6 months
Tangentially related, but I recently read Glorious Exploits by Ferdia Lennon [1]

It's set after Sicily defeats Athens in the Peloponnesian War. Two unemployed potters decide to stage two plays by Euripides using the Athenian prisoners kept in the infamous quarry.

Really enjoyable tragi-comedy.

[1] https://www.penguin.co.uk/authors/295543/ferdia-lennon

By @complaintdept - 6 months
Re: lost classics, I hope we can recover an intact work by Heraclitus from those burnt scrolls in Herculaneum, that would make me lose my shit.
By @peterclary - 6 months
I only regret that several of my old Classics masters are no longer around to celebrate this.
By @persnickety - 6 months
How did they manage to squeeze 98 lines on 10.5 square inches? That's less than 68cm². For 5mm×5mm characters that area can fit 272 characters, so not even 3 characters per line.
By @codeofficer - 6 months
Euripides trousers, Umendades trousors.