August 10th, 2024

The spinning ATR plane crash in Brazil

On August 9, 2024, an ATR 72-500 crashed in Brazil, killing 62. The incident involved altitude loss due to severe icing, raising concerns about pilot decision-making and aircraft avionics.

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The spinning ATR plane crash in Brazil

On August 9, 2024, an ATR 72-500 turboprop aircraft crashed in Brazil, resulting in the deaths of 62 people. The aircraft was cruising at 17,000 feet when it began to lose altitude, dropping approximately 250 feet in ten seconds before climbing 400 feet in eight seconds. This behavior suggests the pilots were attempting to regain altitude, likely in response to an aerodynamic stall, which can lead to a spin that is difficult to recover from in larger aircraft. The conditions at the time included a temperature of 17°C on the ground, with potential severe icing above 12,000 feet. While the ATR is equipped with de-icing systems, no aircraft can maintain level flight indefinitely in severe icing conditions. The crash has raised questions about pilot decision-making and the aircraft's response to icing, as well as the adequacy of current avionics systems in preventing such accidents. The incident highlights the challenges pilots face in managing altitude and airspeed in adverse weather conditions, particularly when dealing with icing and stall recovery.

- An ATR 72-500 crashed in Brazil on August 9, 2024, killing 62 people.

- The aircraft experienced altitude loss and recovery attempts before the crash.

- Severe icing conditions were present, complicating the pilots' ability to maintain altitude.

- The incident raises concerns about pilot decision-making and aircraft avionics.

- Effective stall recovery techniques are critical in preventing similar accidents.

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By @tqi - 8 months
> The aspiration seems to be an LCD version of the gauges and dials that were in a B-17 bomber over Germany in World War II. The computers on board the aircraft had all of the information that they needed to warn the crew “you can’t hold altitude at this power setting” long before they came anywhere near stalling.

I feel this way in cars as well - with a full LCD infotainment center why am I still forced to try and interpret inscrutable indicator lights?

By @guerby - 8 months
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zaRCbnMhFo ATR-72 EN VRILLE by ATE CHUET

In French, a bit more information about ATR and icing as potential cause for this crash.

By @Jyaif - 8 months
> Captain Sully had the stick full back during his heroic single-pilot landing on the Hudson, just like a panicked student pilot

Ouch!

By @samstave - 8 months
SO basically a quick-icing on one side/unevenly with the potential for pilot error is truly what caused it?