August 14th, 2024

Launch HN: Promi (YC S24) – AI-powered ecommerce discounts

Peter and Jiaxin are developing Promi, an AI platform to optimize retail e-commerce discounts, focusing on inventory liquidation and inviting feedback from Shopify store owners for improvement.

Launch HN: Promi (YC S24) – AI-powered ecommerce discounts

Peter and Jiaxin are developing Promi, an AI-driven platform designed to optimize retail e-commerce discounts tailored to products and customers. Traditional discounting methods are often manual and lack scientific backing, relying on historical data and competitor analysis. Promi aims to enhance this process by utilizing AI to determine optimal discount values, personalizing them for different user groups, and adjusting them frequently based on various data points such as conversion rates and profit margins. The platform is particularly beneficial for smaller merchants who typically struggle with effective pricing strategies. Promi's initial product focuses on inventory liquidation, using historical sales data to train its model and predict necessary discounts to boost conversion rates. The founders, with experience from Uber, have previously implemented similar AI features and learned to create a global model that leverages data across multiple markets to improve discount performance. They invite feedback and suggestions from the community, especially from Shopify store owners who can try their app.

- Promi uses AI to optimize e-commerce discounts for products and customers.

- The platform aims to improve discount strategies for both large and small retailers.

- Initial focus is on inventory liquidation, using historical sales data for model training.

- Founders have experience from Uber, where they implemented AI-driven discount features.

- Feedback and suggestions are welcomed from the community, particularly Shopify users.

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By @rd - 6 months
An actually cool use case of AI. Congrats on the launch.

Some questions:

1) I’m assuming by “personalizing discount across users”, you mean personalized one-time coupon codes? I wonder if the UX of seeing one price in regular Chrome and one in incognito would be upsetting. I also don’t know how price discrimination works but seems relevant?

2) I’d love to understand more about how for smaller retailers there’ll be enough data to make meaningful discount programs for a limited set of consumers? Will data from similar/multiple retailers be bucketed?

3) Any numbers/data on effectiveness so far?

By @nilirl - 6 months
I have a few dumb questions for people who really understand how this stuff works:

- Is prediction based on historic transaction and sales data effective? I always assumed transaction and sales data in isolation didn't contain enough information to be effective predictors of buying behavior. Is that wrong?

- How much more effective is it than a human intuitively setting a discount? I can see large retailers saving time on having to set discounts for a large number of products. Just wondering if small merchants would just be better off doing it themselves.

By @pupumeme - 6 months
Your global model approach from Uber is clever. Have you considered how to communicate this benefit to smaller merchants who might be skeptical about having enough data?

I'm curious about the personalization aspect. How do you plan to balance the potential uplift with the risk of customer backlash if they feel manipulated?

The 1% commission seems steep for smaller merchants. Have you considered a tiered pricing model based on revenue or order volume?

By @wqtz - 6 months
- Where are you getting the data to train the model? You need initial historic data of different products including pricing information and inventory. I am assuming you are buying scraped data. Don't have an opinion just curious. The words data and AI feels to be lacking context.

- Will you also be looking into real time competitor pricing to make discounts more competitive?

By @bx376 - 6 months
This is a perfect example of automated price management.

I think you need to better communicate the causality between applying your model and increased profits to justify your 1% commission.

By @r2sk5t - 6 months
Not necessarily relevant for you, but expect legislation for algorithmic price collusion:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/08/ai-price-a...

https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-r...

By @doctorpangloss - 6 months
Is 1% too greedy?

Before you say, “Stripe:” listen, they’re too greedy too!

By @netsharc - 6 months
> How we got here: Jiaxin and I are coming from Uber, where I led product for the discount team across Eats and Rides.

So it's surge pricing but masked as discount... but hey, it'll work for the consumption-driven world.