August 27th, 2024

Notes on Buttondown.com

In April 2024, Buttondown acquired buttondown.com for $85,000. The migration from buttondown.email was completed by August, facing challenges but maintaining stable SEO traffic and enhancing brand clarity.

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Notes on Buttondown.com

In April 2024, Buttondown's owner made a significant capital expenditure of $85,000 to acquire the domain buttondown.com, marking it as the largest non-house purchase in his experience. By August, the migration from buttondown.email to buttondown.com was completed, although the process was complicated by the platform's architecture, which combines Vercel/Next for the marketing and documentation sites with Django/Heroku for the core application, all managed by an HAProxy load balancer. The migration was smoother than anticipated, with minimal production issues, largely due to a clear scope that focused solely on web traffic migration. Initial concerns about SEO traffic declines were unfounded, as traffic remained stable. The most challenging aspects involved external URLs and OAuth redirects that were not easily identifiable. The owner expressed satisfaction with the outcome, noting that the project involved extensive planning and execution but ultimately was worth the investment, as it eliminated confusion surrounding the brand name and avoided ongoing costs associated with other potential expenditures.

- Buttondown.com was acquired for $85,000 in April 2024.

- The migration from buttondown.email to buttondown.com was completed by August 2024.

- The process faced challenges due to the platform's complex architecture but was smoother than expected.

- SEO traffic remained stable post-migration, contrary to initial concerns.

- The project was deemed worthwhile, enhancing brand clarity and avoiding ongoing costs.

AI: What people are saying
The comments reflect a mix of opinions and insights regarding Buttondown's recent acquisition and brand transition.
  • Users appreciate Buttondown's simplicity and effectiveness compared to other platforms like Mailchimp.
  • There are concerns about brand recognition and the potential confusion with the previous domain, buttondown.email.
  • Some commenters question the value of the $85,000 investment in the new domain, suggesting a possible rebranding could have been more cost-effective.
  • Several users express satisfaction with Buttondown's customer service and functionality, highlighting its appeal for startups.
  • Concerns about email deliverability and spam issues are raised, reflecting skepticism about new email service providers.
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By @4ar0n - 8 months
I just signed up for Buttondown after researching and comparing a dozen other newsletter platforms.

I told our CEO that Buttondown is exactly the kind of scrappy startup we'd want representing our own startup.

If it's helpful for the HackerNews community, I've made my comparison spreadsheet free to view: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P9FyAYDdFZvTzmXVQi8A...

(I'm not an employee and have no financial incentive, I'm just a fan.)

By @jrflowers - 8 months
> people stop referring to Buttondown as "Buttondown Email", a personal pet peeve of mine

This is funny because I only remember Buttondown Email because I love the name and domain. I am either going to keep remembering it as Buttondown Email or eventually forget it as Generic Noun Unrelated To Product 9000

By @jmduke - 8 months
Author here! Happy to answer any questions folks have.

(I would also be remiss if I didn't say that I am grateful to HN for introducing me to what was called microISVs a decade ago, "indie hacking" five years ago, and now I suppose is mostly called "building in public" / "lifestyle businesses". I was inspired to start Buttondown in no small part due to reading about Candy Japan, Appointment Reminder, et al, and learning that there was a different yet equally valid path for growing a SaaS)

By @jicea - 8 months
> We ended up using hurl as a test harness around HAProxy, something we probably should have done three years ago.

As maintainer of Hurl [1], this makes me happy!

[1]: https://hurl.dev

By @nine_k - 8 months
So, switching the domain to buttondown.com brought an uptick of traffic quickly.

People apparently still hear a word, type it, and press Ctrl+Enter, or a mobile equivalent.

Whoever has been parking the domain likely had made a wise investment, and now received $85k for it. Not millions, but still a new car.

By @mwidell - 8 months
For context, Buttondown is like Mailchimp but stripped down to only the essentials. It is simple, has everything I need, but not 1 million things I don't need. I love it.
By @mft_ - 8 months
A minor point to feed back: for me, https://www.buttondown.com/ fails to load, while https://buttondown.com/ works.
By @ktosobcy - 8 months
I opened the page and still have no clue that buttondown is...
By @jwr - 8 months
The pricing page (in the FAQ section) has a "c..e@buttondown.email" address, so the grep must not have been complete :-)

(I've migrated a domain from .io to .com, I can relate)

I'm a possible customer, so I looked at the service and its pricing page and… I'm not sure if this is a service for me. I send both transactional and non-transactional E-mail, but I don't need "list management", just E-mail processing. Buttondown would be $29/month + $50/month for whitelabeling, while Postmark would be $15/month. Am I missing something?

By @duggan - 8 months
I remember when Teamwork's founder bought a round of drinks for everyone at a local tech meetup to celebrate acquiring the domain (teamwork.com).

I think they paid something like half a million quid for it? It was an absolutely eye watering amount to me at the time (and I think them, in fairness), but past a certain size having your .com was and probably still is big for trust.

Which is to say, congratulations! You must be delighted.

By @hk1337 - 8 months
Buttondown is intended for marketing emails, like Mailchimp, right? It's not necessarily for business email like O365, Google Apps, Fastmail, etc?
By @alberth - 8 months
https://buttondown.com/

Clickable link, since the blog didn’t have it.

By @ezekg - 8 months
Last time I tried to buy my .com, the seller countered at $500k. No thanks. Not convinced it'll ever be break-even at that ridiculous price. Not sure I'd even pay $85k. The return on that investment just seems... low.
By @benjbrooks - 8 months
We’ve been running our company’s friends and family newsletter on buttondown for more than a year and love it! Congrats on the domain purchase.
By @teekert - 8 months
Oh so nice those fancy tlds and domain names. I have been too "clever" about 2 domains in my life already:

First is my private email which has only 4 letters and our national .nl tld. I always have to spell out the domain because it is not really a word, and it sometimes confuses Americans (non-techies) that there is no .com.

The second domain is my business domain which has .bio as tld, and now I often see people waiting for more when I say my address, like: "Hi, my address is blabla.bio", "... and?" "No, that is it, .bio is the end."

So I guess "normal" .com is just the way to go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (although in both cases that was just too expensive for me and I like short domains a lot myself, I once met someone who had (pattern) xx@yy.dk, apparently the whole company did, I kneeled.)

By @big_hacker - 8 months
Amazon SES is $0.10/1k email.
By @dangus - 8 months
As someone who has never heard of Buttondown before this, I do wonder if this is a strong enough brand name to be worth the expensive domain.

It’s not like hey.com or something, it’s kind of a clunky name in the first place.

I would have considered renaming the company and picking up a cheaper domain in the process.

By @jjwtieke - 8 months
Love buttondown. Have been using it for 3-4 months now and it’s everything I need without all the bullshit. Also thanks for your prompt problem solving whenever I find a bug!
By @ahaapple - 8 months
I'm going to switch from buttondown to resend
By @w-ll - 8 months
imma be honest, if i get a email that comes from a buttondown.com server, for something i have never signed up for, im gonna mark as spam... email is hard, and it seams every time a new sender service pops up, It seems to get a lot of bad actors.

Your homepage says "and our spam protection is best-in-class." is that for your client inbox, or mine?

By @the_gipsy - 8 months

    We bought the dot-com-domain and managed not to shit ourselves in the process.
Is this company HN sponsored? Why do these marketing pieces reach the frontpage?