August 27th, 2024

We Can and Should Domesticate Raccoons

The article explores the potential domestication of raccoons, emphasizing their intelligence and dexterity, and suggests genetic engineering could expedite this process, creating new roles in the growing pet industry.

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We Can and Should Domesticate Raccoons

The article discusses the potential for domestication of raccoons, highlighting their intelligence, dexterity, and manageable size as key traits that could make them superior companions and assistants compared to traditional pets like dogs. Raccoons exhibit problem-solving abilities similar to primates and possess semi-opposable thumbs, allowing them to perform tasks such as opening doors and manipulating objects. The author references the Soviet Fox Domestication Experiment as a successful model for domestication, suggesting that similar methods could be applied to raccoons. Additionally, the article explores the possibility of using genetic engineering to expedite the domestication process, drawing parallels with Williams syndrome in humans, which is associated with sociability and certain physical traits. The growing pet industry presents a significant market opportunity for domesticated raccoons, which could serve various roles, including service animals, companions, and laborers in commercial settings. The potential impact of domesticated raccoons on society is vast, indicating a new frontier in human-animal relationships.

- Raccoons possess intelligence and dexterity that may surpass traditional pets.

- Successful domestication models exist, such as the Soviet Fox Domestication Experiment.

- Genetic engineering could accelerate the domestication process.

- The pet industry is projected to grow significantly, presenting market opportunities for domesticated raccoons.

- Domesticated raccoons could serve in various roles, including service animals and laborers.

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By @hwbehrens - 6 months
This is a "modest proposal" for sure. No legitimate thrust toward domestication would cherry pick such an esoteric example as "threading wires in automobile manufacturing facilities".

Take the (very real) fox domestication as a counterexample -- the topline takeaway is about how cute and cuddly they became. A smart and cuddly pet would be a believable pitch, but a helpful, even productive "human assistant" is far less so.

With that said, there are raccoon breeders out there (according to Google), so this proposal might be 25-50 years too early, eventually ending up like chinchillas or other small, exotic mammals.

By @mjh2539 - 6 months
Nearly every racoon in North America is a carrier of roundworms. Their eggs are nearly impossible to kill, and if you ingest them, they hatch in your intestines and begin migrating through the rest of your body, resulting in severe and sometimes fatal neurological damage.
By @maxglute - 6 months
I was going to joke we shouldn't domesticate creatures with thumbs, only to TIL raccoons don't have thumbs, but 5 dexterous toes, and probably can't shoot a firearm.

https://old.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/q5o9a5/c...

By @CharlieDigital - 6 months

    The pet industry is projected to grow from $320 billion to nearly $500 billion by 2030 (Bloomberg Intelligence, 2023). Domesticated raccoons could carve out a significant niche in this market, potentially rivaling the popularity of dogs.
BRB, filling out my YC fall batch application...
By @kayo_20211030 - 6 months
Easy now. This is a good joke. It's all pretty funny. In fact, the whole oliviali.me site is pretty funny. We've got fusion in an apartment in NYC, Martian number sensibility, some microbial voodoo, etc. But, the effort, the immense effort to put this together is impressive - just look at the bibliographies and reference. Well done!
By @nsonha - 6 months
Idk what I should say about the potential of enslaving animals for their labor. I don't even know what I should think about breeding cute pets and fucking up their gene pool for entertainment. Having said I have watched a netflix documentary about service dogs recently and it's pretty inspiring.
By @dom96 - 6 months
First time I looked an article and the inclusion of AI art has made me start to feel like the article itself is written using AI. Not saying that's the case, but it put me off reading it.
By @ur-whale - 6 months
No mention in the article of the hygiene related aspect of the plan.

Can racoon be trained to pee / defecate outside ?

What do they smell like ?

Sure, these issues can likely be bred out of the current animal, but still.

By @yencabulator - 6 months
> In Europe, the raccoon has been included on the list of Invasive Alien Species of Union Concern since 2016.[4] This implies that this species cannot be imported, bred, transported, commercialized, or intentionally released into the environment in the whole of the European Union.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raccoon

By @giardini - 6 months
Knew a couple who adopted a young raccoon. One day "dad" remarked "It's like having a 2-year-old that never grows up." That raccoon tested every lock, drawer, closure and tool in the house (all the time).

I stepped outside once to find a mother raccoon with two young. One immediately chewed on my right toe; then the other bit my left toe. I was glad I had taken the time to put on my track shoes before venturing outside.

By @lelanthran - 6 months
Someone's been watching too many Marvel movies.
By @runamuck - 6 months
I collect silver age comic books, and this reminds me of several ads I read peddling "Pet Raccoons." I love it! https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbookcollecting/comments/16uwxh...
By @type0 - 6 months
oh, and organized crime can't wait to domesticate these masked bandits
By @elliottkember - 6 months
This is very obviously a GPT-authored nonsense article. The author is very much into GPT [1], and this article makes very little sense.

[1] https://x.com/oliviali_/status/1612928271376650240

By @perihelion_zero - 6 months
PS: The domain www.particleacceleratorferrets.com is currently available as of my posting this.

I'm not necessarily saying we shouldn't domesticate raccoons, but we have to be really careful about what animals are allowed to pilot submarines. It's a serious issue!

By @csours - 6 months
I don't think humans will ever domesticate another animal. The amount of culling required is just too horrifying.

I don't think there will be any new[1] dog breeds for the same reason.

1. New meaning actual new breed, not just new mixes.

By @notjulianjaynes - 6 months
I was on board with this until it mentioned raccoons can open pill jars. I'm imagining someone's pet racoon getting hooked on their Ritalin prescription and actually yeah, let's do this.
By @stronglikedan - 6 months
By @pinkmuffinere - 6 months
If the author sees this: was this written by an LLM?

I discussed in a thread already, but my guess is it’s not (fully) written by an LLM. The jokes are just-subtle enough to land, and the points are unexpected-yet-slightly-convincing. From LLMs I tend get info that’s overly obvious, or just wrong. I could believe an LLM was used for editing / flushing out an initial draft. Would love to know the true answer.

By @philippemnoel - 6 months
I want one. Where do I sign?
By @ChrisArchitect - 6 months
Love raccoons but am also reminded of Rascal cartoons in Japan:

How a Kids’ Cartoon Created a Real-Life Invasive Army (2017)

https://nautil.us/how-a-kids-cartoon-created-a-real_life-inv...

tl;dr Pet raccoons were popular in Japan because of a popular cartoon and then at the end of the series everyone started releasing their pets into the wild and it caused them to overpopulate and do tons of damage to the ancient temples etc!

By @astrodust - 6 months
Pretty sure a raccoon wrote this.
By @PaulHoule - 6 months
... and sign language Gorillas that can teach young Gorillas to use sign language

... and really big ostriches to populate Jurassic park

By @senkora - 6 months
How do I invest?
By @tills13 - 6 months
Raccoons are pests. They are not cute and are a nuisance.
By @renewiltord - 6 months
Nah, pet owners are bad at pet maintenance and we will be inundated by raccoon poop everywhere that the owners were "going to pick up on our way back". Besides, the relationship people have with animals is idiotic. In San Francisco, they wanted kids to stop playing in Golden Gate Park because a coyote bit a child. Fortunately, saner minds prevailed and the animal was destroyed.
By @jprd - 6 months
We've all been sleeping on Raccoon AI. There is a Raccoon AI gap and we need serious and immediate legislation to address this.