What commercial flight route needs the most (min poss.) stops from A to B?
Travel Stack Exchange users discuss identifying commercial flight routes with the most stops, citing a 13-leg journey from Savissivik Heliport to Stony River, emphasizing itinerary complexity and using OpenFlights for exploration.
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The discussion on Travel Stack Exchange revolves around identifying commercial flight routes that require the maximum number of stops or layovers between two airports, A and B. Users are interested in finding the longest itineraries with the fewest legs, often for travel hacking or novelty purposes. One notable example cited is a 13-leg journey from Savissivik Heliport (SVR) to Stony River (SRV) involving various flights, including helicopters and small aircraft. The conversation highlights the complexity of such itineraries, as many flights may not be bookable on a single ticket or may require specific access permits. Additionally, the discussion touches on the mathematical aspects of airline ticketing and the potential for extreme itineraries, such as a theoretical 20-flight journey from a remote Alaskan airport to an African destination. The community suggests using resources like OpenFlights to explore and compute possible routes, emphasizing the variability based on travel restrictions and the nature of the flights involved.
- The goal is to find flight routes with the maximum number of required stops.
- A notable example includes a 13-leg journey from SVR to SRV.
- Itineraries can be complex, often involving non-bookable flights or special permits.
- The discussion includes theoretical extreme itineraries, highlighting the mathematical nature of airline ticketing.
- OpenFlights is recommended as a resource for exploring flight routes.
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8 commentsThese two Airports are only 37 miles away from each other. There's a shuttle between them that takes 75 minutes.
EDDF - Frankfurt (E: Northern Europe, D: Germany)
EKCH - Copenhagen (E: Northern Europe, K: Denmark)
VTBS - Bangkok (V: South/Southeast Asia, T: Thailand)
KJFK - New York JFK (K: USA)
Using ICAO codes, you can make sense of a written out route at a glance. Taking one of the examples from the link:
AUY TAH VLI BNE BKK CPH SFJ JAV JUV NAQ
becomes
NVVA NVVW NVVV YBBN VTBS EKCH BGSF BGJN BGUK BGQQ
I.e.: Vanuatu (a few jumps) -> Australia -> Thailand -> Denmark -> Greenland (a few jumps).
Economically, most cost effective route one hop, without additional landings. And also, it is very big hassle, to manage all passengers and their luggage in hub, and all these transfers are time consuming and tiresome.
~15 years ago, unfortunately, only largest planes (747/380) could fly any route in one hop, but smaller (ie 737) could not. And all air transport economy built with concept of "hub world" - existed several big hubs, like Frankfurt, between them flight big planes, and to reach smaller airports, used small planes or some other transport.
Also important thing, air companies in past have to maintain good relations with hubs, so this was also question of politics and big pain for business.
But then appeared new small planes with much better fuel efficiency (787 and new modification of A-3xx, sorry forgot exact number), plus changed regulations accepted two-engined planes fly farther from reserve airport, so now any airport reachable with small plane and hubs concept slow dissolve.
Sure, still exist number of rare visited places, where just very few tourists appear, but for now their place in "post-hub world" is "under construction", nobody could predict how things will change in nearest months.
[added] 8 if you add MNL (Manila) on arrival to Guam
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