October 2nd, 2024

Only Use Old Computers

The article promotes using older computers, especially pre-2008 models, highlighting their durability, repairability, and cost-effectiveness while criticizing modern technology's fragility and built-in spyware. It suggests switching to Linux.

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Only Use Old Computers

The article advocates for the use of older computers, particularly models from 2008 or earlier, arguing that most users do not need modern technology. It criticizes the consumer electronics industry for promoting the idea that new computers are necessary, highlighting that only specific professional tasks require the latest hardware. The author emphasizes the durability and repairability of older models, particularly ThinkPads, which are designed for enterprise use and are easier to maintain than modern laptops. The article also points out the issues with modern computers, such as their fragility, built-in spyware like Intel's Management Engine, and the challenges of using proprietary software and drivers. The author suggests that many common computer problems can be resolved by switching to Linux, which runs efficiently on older hardware. Overall, the piece encourages users to reconsider their reliance on modern computers and to explore the benefits of older, more affordable options.

- Most users can effectively use computers from 2008 or earlier.

- Older ThinkPads are durable, repairable, and cost-effective.

- Modern computers often have built-in spyware and are designed to be less repairable.

- Switching to Linux can alleviate many common computer issues.

- The consumer electronics industry promotes unnecessary upgrades for profit.

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By @voidUpdate - 7 months
> "Use many massive Electron apps and other inexcusably bad software written by soydevs and other people who shouldn't be writing software. The last two reasons aren't really real reasons at all because they are totally unnecessary and avoidable things."

Sadly its hard to get away from "massive electron apps" these days if you have a job. I appreciate the sentiment but you're going to have to shift a lot of corporate mindset to get that to happen

By @kutenai - 7 months
When did software engineers adopt this "cheapest is best" strategy? - Only use free ides - Cheapest computers - Get it free, blah blah

I'm a Software professional - most reading this are also. We get paid pretty well in general. I don't compromise on my tools, my hardware, my monitors, etc. I buy software tools that make me happy, better IDE's, licenses to tools I find useful, etc.

This mindset that a "good" software engineer should be a cheap bastard is insane to me. I respect my craft such that I'm willing to pay OTHERS that develop good software, and good hardware. I buy the most expensive computer I can afford. Period. You want to get by on some old boat anchor? You have something to prove? Fuck you. You don't respect yourself.

My Macbook pro has the fastest 4TB SSD you'll ever see. I use about half of it.. so what. I get no brownie points for "using all of my disk" More is better. I can run dozens of apps simultaneously -- I have so many apps running I can't count them. I rarely reboot -- get annoyed when I have to.

I could probably "get by' with less of a machine, but fuck that. I live my laptop, and I can run 4 full screen large format monitors with it.

Have some self respect. You are a professional, buy yourself professional tools. Nobody gives a shit that you are some cheapskate that "gets by" with less.

By @JohnFen - 7 months
This has been my mindset for a long time. I don't buy new computers, I buy older refurbished ones from my local electronics recycler.

I do it because I only very rarely need the sort of grunt that would make an older computer struggle, the cost is substantially lower, and reusing what's already built is better for everyone than buying something new and letting perfectly usable equipment go into the waste stream just because it's not the new shiny anymore.

By @snakeyjake - 7 months
The number 1 reason to purchase a new laptop is their improved battery life. Simultaneous advancements in power efficiency of CPUs and better battery chemistries have led to even mid-range laptops having 3x-4x the endurance of an older machine.

> More recent computers, however are non-removable spyware by design and, yes, the NSA can monitor any machine with a Management Engine.

lol nevermind

By @efficax - 7 months
there are so many falsehoods in this post it’s hard to know where to begin, but it’s true that about 10-15 years ago computers got fast enough for the normal business/office use case and one from 2010 is perfectly serviceable in a way that seems wild if you remember the difference between a system from 2000 and 2010 or 2000 and 1990.

but, display quality and battery life have improved dramatically on new systems. i’ll probably use my m1 mac studio for at least 3 more years, long after the m4 comes out, since it’s plenty fast and drives two 6k displays. i guess i’m just a soydev but no computer from 2008 can do that

By @sneed_chucker - 7 months
Does anyone know what happened to Luke Smith? His website and YouTube channel haven't been updated in over a year.

Has he gone full Orthodox monk and withdrawn from the modern world to some monastery up in the mountains in Serbia?