October 9th, 2024

On 17th century "cocaine"

Recent research reveals coca use in 17th century Milan, predating previous records in Europe. This suggests broader knowledge of coca linked to trade, necessitating further exploration of historical drug practices.

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On 17th century "cocaine"

Recent research has uncovered evidence of coca use in mummified brain tissue from two men who died in 17th century Milan, marking the earliest detection of coca outside South America. This finding, published in the Journal of Archaeological Science, suggests that coca leaves were present in Europe nearly two centuries earlier than previously documented. However, it is important to clarify that while coca leaves were used, cocaine, the alkaloid derived from coca, was not isolated until 1855. The distinction between coca and cocaine is significant for understanding the history of drug use, as the industrialization of drugs in the 19th century led to the mass production of more potent substances, fundamentally changing drug consumption patterns. The presence of coca in Milan indicates a potential broader knowledge and use of the plant in Europe, possibly linked to trade networks established by Spanish conquistadors. This discovery raises questions about the extent of coca use among the general population in 17th century Europe and highlights the need for further research into historical drug practices. The study emphasizes the intersection of physical and written historical records, suggesting a more widespread use of coca than previously recognized.

- Evidence of coca use in 17th century Milan pushes back the timeline for its presence in Europe.

- Coca leaves were used, but cocaine as a substance did not exist until the 19th century.

- The findings suggest a broader knowledge and potential use of coca in early modern Europe.

- The research highlights the importance of distinguishing between coca and cocaine in drug history.

- Further studies are needed to explore the extent of coca use in 17th century Europe.

AI: What people are saying
The discussion surrounding coca use in 17th century Milan reveals various perspectives on coca and cocaine.
  • Many commenters draw distinctions between coca leaves and cocaine, likening it to the difference between raw and refined substances.
  • Historical references to coca and cocaine in medicine and popular culture are shared, highlighting their past uses.
  • Some express frustration with current drug laws, advocating for the legalization of coca leaves.
  • There is interest in the cultural and medicinal aspects of coca, with mentions of coca tea and its effects.
  • Several comments reference the historical context of drug use and its societal implications, drawing parallels with other substances like alcohol.
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By @mastazi - 3 months
Can anyone with a scientific background give an opinion about the first comment to the linked post? They say they are sceptical because "there are a number of Tropane alkaloids which are very close to cocaine and are present in other plants - especially nightshades (e.g., belladonna) - which were known to and used for various purposes by Europeans for a long time."
By @voidmain0001 - 3 months
I inherited a small hardcover handbook on the use of cocaine in medicine and the household. I don’t have it in front of me at the moment so I don’t remember the print date. I’m guessing late 1800 or early 1900. Ah. DDG to rescue, here is a version of it. https://www.thebookmerchantjenkins.com/product/coca-and-coca... Certainly a different perspective on it from today.
By @cannonpr - 3 months
The ban on cocaine is kind of annoying even in its pure form, it’s a very useful local anaesthetic with good tolerance, low side effects that few people are allergic to. I have often wished it was included in some of the more advanced first aid kits, or used more widely for minor operations.
By @Beijinger - 3 months
"Analyzing mummified brain tissue from two men who died at the hospital in the seventeenth century, they found evidence of coca use—the earliest ever detected outside of South America. "

There is at least one person who disagrees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henut_Taui

By @lisper - 3 months
The difference between coca and cocaine is rather like the difference between sugar cane and refined sugar. In fact, that is quite a good analogy in more ways than one.
By @sevensor - 3 months
Not the subject of the article, but in the vein (so to speak) of 19th century industrial refinement processes, gin and other cheap spirits were also a really big deal, and a really big problem at the time. The temperance movement didn’t come out of nowhere. I think it’s an interesting parallel between fermented beverages and coca tea on the one hand, and cocaine and hard liquor on the other.
By @md224 - 3 months
I wish the US would legalize coca leaves. Our nation's drug laws are so goddamn stupid.

Two different Popes drank Vin Mariani!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin_Mariani

By @randomNumber7 - 3 months
The article is just hilariously bad. Whatever he writes about coca and cocaine is just wrong.

The leaves contain the base. The base has a low melting point and can be smoked (crack).

Cocaine hydrochloride is created chemically from the base. It is water soluble and can snorted. Because of the PH of the blood it decomposes into the base.

Chemically there is no difference once the drug is in the blood stream

By @cynicalpeace - 3 months
Coca-Cola still uses coca leaves in the production of its drink.

The Stepan Company plant in New Jersey is the only place in the USA authorized to import coca.

"Equality before the law" is unfortunately a farce in this country, if you didn't already know.

By @IAmGraydon - 3 months
>As you can see, the Times was not the only news outlet to be confused about the distinction between cocaine and coca

Unfortunately, the author of this article is the one who is confused. Cocaine is the name of the alkaloid present in the coca leaf, much like the coffee bean contains caffeine. If they were using coca leaf, they were using cocaine.

By @doingtheiroming - 3 months
Stephen Maturin switches from opium to coca leaves about halfway through the Master and Commander series (around 1800). Ensuring a steady supply of the leaves becomes a recurring theme as is his sharing of their wonders with the various scientific personalities he comes across.
By @golergka - 3 months
Coca tea is very underrated. Too bad its probably impossible to legally buy outside of south America
By @yandrypozo - 3 months
“I was making frequent use of cocaine at that time ... I had been the first to recommend the use of cocaine, in 1885, and this recommendation had brought serious reproaches down on me.”

“... a big wild man who has cocaine in his body.”

― Sigmund Freud

By @JasserInicide - 3 months
Anyone here ever actually try coca leaves? Going to guess its effects are somewhere between coffee and cocaine
By @gwbas1c - 3 months
> Was recreational or medicinal coca use something that was happening all over Europe in the 1600s?

I'd think we'd already know, because there would be historical (literature and records) references.

By @mossTechnician - 3 months
> As David Courtwright writes in his book Forces of Habit, “factories did for drugs what canning did to vegetables. They democratized them. It became easier, cheaper, and faster for the masses to saturate their brains with chemicals.”

This is a really interesting use of the word "democratize." I've seen it used in many other contexts (usually in a business sense), and some have been more ominous than others.