November 3rd, 2024

Can humans say the largest prime number before we find the next one?

A new initiative, "Say the Prime," invites individuals to record and upload videos of themselves vocalizing segments of the largest known prime number, promoting creativity and collaboration among participants.

Read original articleLink Icon
CuriositySkepticismEnthusiasm
Can humans say the largest prime number before we find the next one?

A new initiative called "Say the Prime" invites individuals to participate in a collective effort to vocalize the digits of the largest known prime number, Mersenne prime M136279841, which consists of 41 million digits. The project aims to have people record themselves saying 419-digit segments of this prime number before a potentially larger prime is discovered. Participants can claim a chunk of the number, record themselves reading it aloud for approximately three and a half minutes, and then upload their videos to YouTube. The goal is to create a playlist that showcases a continuous chain of humans speaking the prime number, emphasizing the fun and collaborative nature of the project. The organizers encourage creativity in video production, with no requirement for participants to show their faces, as long as the digits are clearly articulated. The project is led by Ayliean, Katie Steckles, and Matthew Scroggs, who also invite support for future endeavors through their Patreon.

- The project aims to vocalize the digits of the largest known prime number before a new one is discovered.

- Participants can record and upload videos of themselves saying 419-digit segments of the prime.

- The initiative promotes creativity and collaboration among participants.

- Videos can be unlisted on YouTube if participants prefer not to display them on their channels.

- The project is organized by Ayliean, Katie Steckles, and Matthew Scroggs.

AI: What people are saying
The comments on the "Say the Prime" initiative reflect a mix of enthusiasm, skepticism, and creativity among participants.
  • Many users express excitement about the project, with some suggesting creative ways to participate, such as using music or automation.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility and verification of participants correctly vocalizing their assigned segments.
  • Some commenters question the purpose and practicality of recording such a large prime number.
  • There are discussions about the potential for collaboration and community involvement in the project.
  • A few users reference related concepts, such as the Busy Beaver function and the challenges of expressing large numbers in English.
Link Icon 30 comments
By @lordelph - 5 months
I got strong "The Nine Billion Names of God" vibes from this!

Just as the last video is uploaded, without any fuss, the stars start going out...

https://urbigenous.net/library/nine_billion_names_of_god.htm...

By @utopcell - 5 months
So, each human gets 419 digits from a pool of ~41M digits, or a target of ~100k videos uploaded.

This is the weirdest DDoS attack on YouTube I've seen.

By @largbae - 5 months
The key is to say it in a base-M136279841 number system.
By @kylecazar - 5 months
Are they going to verify that everyone said their sequence correctly?

It would be a silly and pointless prank to derail the effort by omitting a number on purpose, but this is the internet... Or maybe it's just the 'coming together' aspect that we're going for anyway, in which case, it doesn't matter :)

By @Xcelerate - 5 months
Ooh, let’s do this with the Busy Beaver function too. BB(5) is only 12,289 binary digits to say out loud. BB(6) and BB(7) can’t possibly take that much longer to say.
By @ks2048 - 5 months
The homepage seems to be missing: 41 million digits at 2 digits per second ~= 237 days.

It seems the 419 digits/person was chosen to lead to 100,000 people.

By @jws - 5 months
Don't be boring. A quick triage with an AI and a spot check suggest that the guitar solo at the end of Hotel California has just about the right number of notes (depending on how many '7' you get).

Sweet Child of Mine probably works.

Comfortably Numb(ber) allegedly works, but I doubt any of the singers I have access to can enunciate fast enough. For the most relaxed of the options, it has amazing little clouds of fast notes.

MUST RESIST: this is worse than waking up to a Saturday morning "Nerd Sniping", I could lose the whole weekend to this… I'll bet Nate isn't busy… With him and the girls from (redacted) Bohemian Rhapsody could work…

UPDATE: There goes the weekend. So far I've been in a fight with ChatGPT about counting syllables in copyrighted lyrics where I ended up suggesting it get help for its obvious emotional trauma at the hands of an IP lawyer and lined up 5 singers. "enjoy the ride" has beaten "they are just intrusive thoughts".

By @joshdavham - 5 months
This looks like an awesome project! I wish you guys the best in your race against the machine.
By @mserdarsanli - 5 months
They should say it in binary
By @magicmicah85 - 5 months
How fun. I went ahead and automated this by recording numbers 0-9 into mp3 files and then reading each prime number individually to play the mp3 of the corresponding number. Feel free to reuse if you want to participate.

https://gist.github.com/magicmicah/a8cf863ed656e5b56c5449656...

By @bromuro - 5 months
What about having a computer say them? How long would it take to have them recorded?

The assignment here would be to find enough people to _listen_ to batches of 416 of them.

By @thih9 - 5 months
> None of us can do it alone

Off topic but this is not technically true. 41 million digits means 1.3 years of saying one digit per second. Even taking 3x as long, to account for sleep and other activities, this would take about four years - still very much doable.

Four years times $100k/year plus $100k completion bonus equals $500k; I guess many people would be willing to do it alone under these conditions.

By @creativenolo - 5 months
This is wonderful.

But then I read it, and they call it stupid. And then I think, oh… I think I will move on. How boring am I. And why put it up on YouTube - so many videos - given you can’t legitimately download all the videos (unless I am mistaken?) I mean you are investing so much of other people time with this, you think you might offer up an alternative own system in return… how boring I am.

By @sushid - 5 months
Some unanswered questions: why in 419 digit chunks? Are there repeating chunks that they're going to dedupe?
By @Svoka - 5 months
Btw, is it possible to say such number at all? In English, I mean. How would that work?
By @cryptica - 5 months
When I see stuff like this, I don't understand how the economics work out for YouTube. So many pointless videos uploaded for free. How can they possibly make a profit?
By @Waterluvian - 5 months
Feels like a good cause to get out the IIGS and boot up Kid Talk.
By @Eddy_Viscosity2 - 5 months
Instead of base 10, you use base largest known prime, then this is pretty easy to do: 1
By @TheRealPomax - 5 months
This title really needs "Mersenne" in it, because for just "primes" the answer is trivially "no".
By @qwe----3 - 5 months
Just to me, this seems like a waste of resources
By @tyjkot - 5 months
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the purpose of finding prime numbers that are insanely large?
By @metalman - 5 months
given some sort of excrmption from time the chance of any human or group of humans getting it right are still zero, nobody is that good, so the only plausable way to do it, is to just aproximate the number, which we then might as well get on with congradulating ourselves with a job well done, me first I so great,now you ,and you ,and well everybody so great now
By @carabiner - 5 months
I can, but I'm built different.
By @justplay - 5 months
does the current largest prime number have any practical implications as for today ?
By @fuglede_ - 5 months
At https://youtube.com/watch?v=5GFW-eEWXlc&t=1480s, the characters in the 1977 epic space opera Star Wars state the first 48 (binary) digits of the prime, 47 years before its discovery!
By @unsigner - 5 months
Nice try, AI trainers.
By @cfiggers - 5 months
Big assumption there