November 8th, 2024

First image of our Milky Way's black hole may be inaccurate, scientists say

An independent analysis questions the accuracy of the first image of Sagittarius A*, suggesting it may contain artifacts. The eastern accretion disk appears brighter, indicating high-speed rotation. Future upgrades are expected.

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First image of our Milky Way's black hole may be inaccurate, scientists say

An independent analysis of the first image of the Milky Way's supermassive black hole, Sagittarius A* (Sgr A*), suggests that the image may contain inaccuracies. The Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) project captured the image in May 2022, revealing a fuzzy orange doughnut shape. However, researchers from the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan (NAOJ) argue that this appearance may be partly an artifact of the imaging process rather than an accurate representation of the black hole's structure. They propose that the ring-like feature could be more elongated than depicted, based on their analysis of the EHT data using traditional methods. The researchers also noted that the eastern half of the accretion disk appears brighter, indicating it is moving toward Earth at about 60% of the speed of light. The EHT collaboration, which consists of over 400 scientists from 13 institutions, has not yet commented on these findings. Future technological advancements in telescopes are expected to provide clearer images and better insights into the nature of Sgr A* and other black holes.

- Independent analysis questions the accuracy of the first image of Sagittarius A*.

- Researchers suggest the ring-like structure may be an artifact from imaging errors.

- The accretion disk's eastern half appears brighter, indicating high-speed rotation.

- The Event Horizon Telescope project involves over 400 scientists from multiple institutions.

- Future telescope upgrades are anticipated to improve imaging of black holes.

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By @Strilanc - 6 months
At the time they announced the image they described some of the extrapolation they had to do to fill in the image [1]. IIRC I saw a talk that described some of the different methods, but I can't find it now. I recall it was about turning few frequency domain points into many spatial domain points and they used multiple different teams with different methods, which gave qualitatively similar results in the end, but my reaction at the time was that it tanked my confidence in the details of the image since I couldn't tell what was data and what was model. A first-of-its-kind-image is exactly the kind of situation where you want to extrapolate very little.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ws0iPDSqI4&t=1560

By @magicalhippo - 6 months
The linked open access paper can be found here[1] and is fairly accessible.

In section 3 it contains a description of the VLBI technique used by the Event Horizon Telescope and the algorithms used to process the data. The methods rely on deconvolution[2] which behave nicely when dealing with pure signals, but can be tricky in practice on noisy data.

[1]: https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/534/4/3237/7660988

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconvolution

By @venusenvy47 - 6 months
Dr. Becky talked about this topic in her video this week. She goes into a fair amount of detail about the back and forth between the two research groups involved. She is good at giving a layman's explanation, but I was getting a little lost on the details she was getting into on this one.

https://youtu.be/9U6bvR6SzMo

By @atombender - 6 months
Did the EHT project ever try to image a reference object that was simultaneously visible with a traditional telescope such as Hubble or Webb?

I find it curious that they would try to image something that hasn't been observed by telescopes, and where we don't even know it's true appearance, without first proving that the method would work for something we already know, to act as a reference.

By @vlovich123 - 6 months
> For now, either view of the disk's real shape could be correct. Astronomers say forthcoming technological upgrades to telescopes will allow them to gather more detailed images and better constrain the area around Sgr A* and other black holes.

Anyone know the expected timeline for better data?

By @perryizgr8 - 6 months
> our milky way

Is there any other milky way in the universe?

By @ars - 6 months
This is why I hate seeing computer modeling used as science. You get out of it what [assumptions] you put into it.

I'm not saying there's never a use for it, but only in areas with established information to see how it will develop (a weather forecast is a great example), it should never be used to generate the information (i.e. fill in gaps in experimentation or observation).