I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too
The blog post emphasizes the importance of RSS for news updates, sharing personal advocacy for its support from organizations, and encouraging readers to use feed reader apps for better content control.
Read original articleThe author of the blog post emphasizes the importance of RSS (Really Simple Syndication) support for staying updated with news and information from various organizations. They share their personal experience using the Feeder app to follow news outlets, including NPR and local news organizations that support RSS. The author has actively reached out to several entities, such as GovTrack.us and Ubisoft, advocating for the addition of RSS feeds where they are lacking. They highlight the benefits of using RSS feeds, such as having control over the content consumed without the interference of ads or algorithms. The author encourages readers to adopt feed reader apps and to request RSS support from organizations they are interested in, suggesting that this can enhance the way individuals keep up with topics they care about.
- RSS feeds provide a way to stay updated without ads or algorithms.
- The author has successfully advocated for RSS support from various organizations.
- Using a feed reader app can help users manage their news consumption effectively.
- Readers are encouraged to request RSS feeds from organizations they follow.
- RSS support is available from a variety of platforms, including news outlets and blogs.
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The form is
https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UC2wdo5v...
where channel_id is the channel hash code which is buried in the source for the "nicely named" channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@CuttingEdgeEngineering
and can be found without source diving via (say) FeedBro (RSS browser extension) "Find Feeds in Current Tab" function.
<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="assets/xml/rss.xsl" media="all"?>
And I would argue that this is an excellent way to introduce new readers to RSS: instead of the browser popping up a download prompt, you can make your RSS feeds themselves a dedicated page for advocating RSS, in case an interested reader is browsing through the links on your site.[1] https://getnikola.com/rss.xml (Open it in your browser!)
[2] https://github.com/getnikola/nikola/blob/master/nikola/data/...
Even with a custom implementation it’s a simple thing to support. You can find the whole spec here: https://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification
I’ll mention that there is a competing Atom specification which is compatible with all notable RSS readers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(web_standard). The POV I’ve seen on HN favors Atom because it offers more functionality and is a clearer standard.
I want to voice my support for RSS though based on its simplicity. To me the feed doesn’t need a bunch of bells and whistles. I get analysis paralysis I get deciding which Atom features to support.
Also advocate for support with browser manufacturers. It used to be good, then one of them dropped it and the others blindly followed. People clearly want the RSS button, why on earth not provide it?
In many situations you _can_ just send an email. Most often someone will read it and be very happy to help out if they can. Not always, but how much of a time and effort investment is an email really?
The best part is that a few kind words can absolutely make someone’s week.
Thank you for your effort in advocating RSS support. I hope RSS makes a major come back especially with the recent events.
I sometimes wonder why there is so much push for "federation" and so few for... well just simple interoperable solutions that just require a client to connect to whatever server it wants with a well-known protocol.
I often receive answers, that surprised me! People saying "thank you for your suggestion, we will think about what we can do". None of them has every changed anything (I've been doing that for years). I don't even know if they did anything more than answering to the email.
I cringe every time I see a feed that uses RSS and then pulls in Atom for some of elements. If you're going to do that, then just use Atom for the whole thing rather than building a frankenfeed.
Consider helping them out if this interests you, you might even be using a feed already as they have some custom feeds for github like for discussions and issues.
Was surprised that anyone would be interested in keeping up with my writing, but was happy to oblige the request as it had been on my to-do list for a while. Happy I did do as it seems many people are hitting the RSS endpoint now. Cool to see that RSS is relevant in 2025, and will definitely advocate for its usage more moving forward :-)
I created a tool to find such RSS feeds for as many cases as possible: https://lighthouseapp.io/tools/feed-finder
And if you're interested in the details: https://lighthouseapp.io/blog/deep-dive-finding-rss-feeds
1. https://github.com/0x2E/fusion - A lightweight, self-hosted friendly RSS aggregator and reader
2. https://rawweb.org/ - A search engine for indie websites (the crawler collects data from RSS feeds)
3. https://github.com/0x2E/rss-finder - A tool for finding the RSS link of a website
If you remember, Yahoo Pipies allowed devs & others quickly build something with RSS feeds. I've recently rebuilt and launched my own Yahoo Pipes clone
Along the way of building this tool, I came across a plenty of major websites that do not provide RSS feeds and indie devs who maintain niche tools to provide these feeds.
Then again, RSS are still plentiful!
Implementations of this notification mechanism are either spammy, privacy-problematic, or both: (Web) Push notifications, Email, or Messages.
The only solution that doesn't have either of these problems seems to be RSS: Provide the user with (customised) feed link and let them/their RSS client deal with it.
I really wish RSS was less niche and more mainstream. I will "advocate" for it regardless.
And RSS is an over-complex solution anyway, designed for a time before web standards when sites all had spaghetti table layouts. Today there's no need to create a whole shadow site in fussily-formatted XML for what can usually be found in the page source of the article list page as a bunch of `<li>`s.
The more sustainable solution, I believe, is client-based: RSS readers that also parse HTML. There is even an HTML attribute schema, `hfeed`, that makes this easy-peasy and is much easier to implement for publishers. I still don't understand why this solution has not taken off yet. It's clearly optimal.
I also include a short description of rss, which parts to support with an example and a description of how one could make an rss feed: you take whatever code produces the index html, remove everything except the part that outputs for each item the title, introduction text, the link and the publication date.
Followed by one more short example rss with $title
Not that any developer would really need this but it puts everything they need to know and do on a single page. You don't have to think, just do it.
I came to the software industry a lot later than the inception of Web 2.0 and rediscovered RSS almost accidentally. I advocate for it too.
You’d be surprised how many people still care about this. My static site build broke the RSS[1] once recently, and I immediately got like 5 emails from different people.
Or use an open source module. Here is a general atom feed generator that I wrote and published under the GPL:
https://github.com/no-gravity/atomfeed.py
Just 14 lines of Python. And it has been reliably serving the feed for my own website for quite a while now.
Combine that with a list of shared links which functions as a blog roll and consists of the feeds that you follow, and you have yourself a Really Social Site. You can even download the OPML file that contains all the shared links and start following some feeds from it yourself. So discovery is also possible with RSS feeds and OPML lists, albeit it works slightly different than you're used to from big tech.
After that I built a Newspaper module that automatically collects new posts from feeds that I selected. This is my main way to get news without some algorithm deciding for me. The only wish I have is that more of your personal sits/blogs (most websites I follow come from HN) offer more 'photo feeds', just an enclosure-element in your item with a link to a picture or other media.
In any case, many actually useful sites that disable RSS are public orgs that do not rely on adtech or subscriptions. Its the sad result of digital illiteracy and outsourcing their web presence to some inane outfit thats up their neck in the SEO and social media shit.
Incidentally a Web that makes full use of RSS is also one where more complex protocols like ActivityPub and ATProto can flourish. A client is a client is a client. Now that Mozilla has essentially abdicated their role as a user-centered window to the universe maybe there is room for something else?
https://github.com/bluesky-social/social-app/issues/3384
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:3nfshkzomgboapasu6amkhui/rs...
Obviously I can see why they don't want to subsidize the entire internet with high-res videos and images, but a blank RSS feed for media isn't the way to go.
After the migration was complete without an RSS feed, I received dozens of emails within the same week from people I never knew read my blog specifically requesting an RSS feed on the new site. So I added it.
That quickly reminded me about how important and common RSS is, and I'll continue ensuring that RSS feeds exist on any blog I create as a result.
This seems like what we should do against negative trends. I think complaining is more common, probably more accepted (?) than advocating, but logically, the latter is what we should do.
And since this is HN, implementing a RSS reader tutorial is surely more interesting than TODO lists.
The core issue is that browsers have completely failed at offering anything to keep track of websites. Why aren't notifications simply build into the bookmark system? I don't need the website to provide that information via yet another special format, my browser should be able to figure that out itself from plain .html. But bookmarks haven't changed one bit in about 30 years, instead we moved that functionality server-side for no reason.
Feedly asks for a url, this site makes me download a .bin file. It doesn't make sense how this is my first user experience. I can assume I'm supposed to copy the url in the link? But it is a nav item on the site.
Call me nieve or whatever you like but with ux like this I can start to see how this technology has become less popular.
For me I believe I'd prefer a TUI in the terminal, but probably depends.
When pulling RSS, how do you know how often to poll? How do you know which items have been seen previously?
Do someone knows a way to retrieve RSS feeds URLs for any podcast that would be hosted on major platforms? (Spotify, Apple Music)
I subscribed to podcast having some hosted website (where they are publishing the RSS feed from) but most of them don’t
It seems like Atom is better, but RSS as a name is more well known?
I'm guessing adding a button on your website which says "Subscribe via RSS" but which actually points to an Atom feed would be confusing and bad?
Not having it enabled makes life harder for them since many are too lazy/not savvy enough to use other means to steal content.
Why? You can’t bombard RSS with advertising like you can on browsers and if people could get the information they need from RSS they won’t see ads.
I recall the dropping of RSS happened over 6 months to my recollection. RSS was here and every website of merit used it, then all of a sudden Chrome, FireFox and Safari all dropped RSS support. You could go and install a separate RSS client but few people did that (extra steps and all) and then websites saw no one was using RSS and dropped support.
RSS was particularly useful for browsing jobs for IT contractors. I used it daily, using RSS I was able to get job listings fast and apply before other candidates.
For example, job seeking sites:
https://tyomarkkinatori.fi/ is the national "job market" for the whole of Finland. Municipal and state employers are obligated to publish their openings there. That site has been in development for years and from 1.1.2025 onwards it replaced the old one - which supplied RSS feeds. Tyomarkkinatori does not and when asked, they will only reply that RSS is not going to be supported and that's the end of it.
https://indeed.com doesn't provide feeds anymore.
Neither does (yet another Finnish aggregator) https://laura.fi
If they don’t play nice, they often offer short digests in feeds, driving users to open their sites where you get ads, tracking, bloat, paywalls, and no longer in control…
Thank you for advocating RSS. It’s the least we should strive for in our services.
We can also strive for services themselves without tracking, ads, bloat…
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