July 5th, 2024

Five common English words we don't know the origins of–including 'boy' and 'dog'

The article explores the mysterious origins of English words like "bird," "boy," "girl," "dog," and "recorder." Linguists face challenges tracing their roots, revealing intriguing insights into language evolution.

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Five common English words we don't know the origins of–including 'boy' and 'dog'

The article discusses the origins of five common English words whose etymologies remain unknown, including "bird," "boy," "girl," "dog," and "recorder." Linguists use the comparative method to trace the historical development of words across languages but face challenges with certain terms that lack cognates in related languages. For instance, "boy" evolved from a term for a servant in the 13th century, while "girl" has origins linked to Old English words for garment. The word "dog" presents a lexicological mystery, with its roots in Old English still unclear. Additionally, the term "recorder" refers to a musical instrument with known origins from Middle French and Latin, but the reason for its English designation remains uncertain. These linguistic puzzles offer insights into the naming processes of our ancestors and the complexities of language evolution.

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By @nick238 - 8 months
Source is The Conversation that seems to have a strangely-open republication approach licensing stuff via Creative Commons BY-ND. https://theconversation.com/five-common-english-words-we-don... includes a button that just gives you the HTML and some tracking code/image.
By @nobody9999 - 8 months
Only tangentially related, but I've been auditing "The History of English Podcast"[0] and if this sort of thing interests you, you'll probably like that too.

[0] https://historyofenglishpodcast.com/episodes/

By @erickj - 8 months
With absolutely no certainty or linguistic rigor behind this observation...

I've always thought that 'boy' sounded suspiciously close to the Swiss German translation "bueb" (or sometimes "buebe"), almost pronounced "b-way-b"

https://glosbe.com/en/gsw/boy

By @alsetmusic - 8 months
Check out “Highly Irregular: Why Tough, Through, and Dough Don't Rhyme--And Other Oddities of the English Language”

Great book!

By @ars - 8 months
Recorder doesn't just confuse him, it confused me as well the first time I heard the word. I'd always called the musical instrument a flute, which was apparently wrong, although I don't know why since tons of other instruments that look just like a recorder are called flutes.

Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recorder_(musical_instrument)#... has a full etymology, which contradicts the article.

By @riffic - 8 months
By @amelius - 8 months
Purely linguistic question here. What is the word for having a sexual fantasy about someone? Since this must happen a lot, I'm wondering if all languages have a single (transitive?) verb for it. If not, then why not?
By @SomeRndName11 - 8 months
boy sounds somewhat like Turkic bala/bola ("a boy").
By @timonoko - 8 months
"Boy" comes from Japanese ボーイ(bōi).

Or more generally from uralic languages, example Finnish: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/poika

By @bloak - 8 months
Also "kill", apparently.
By @withinboredom - 8 months
Why does every word in English have to come from somewhere else. New words are invented all the time, duh, noob.