July 8th, 2024

SF's AI boom can't stop real estate slide, as office vacancies reach new record

San Francisco's real estate market is struggling with a 34.5% office vacancy rate and rent prices at a low since 2015. AI companies lease space, but hybrid work and tech layoffs contribute to vacancies. The market shows signs of improvement amid uncertainties.

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SF's AI boom can't stop real estate slide, as office vacancies reach new record

San Francisco's real estate market is facing challenges as office vacancies hit a record high of 34.5% in the second quarter, with rent prices dropping to their lowest since 2015. Despite the city benefiting from the artificial intelligence boom, the trend towards hybrid work and mass layoffs in the tech industry have contributed to the increase in vacancies. While AI startups like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Scale AI have leased significant office spaces, the broader market struggles with bringing employees back post-Covid and tech companies downsizing. The city's top employers are gradually returning employees to offices, particularly in the financial district, but areas like SoMa are experiencing nearly 50% vacancy rates. Although there are positive signs of market improvement, uncertainties such as the upcoming presidential election may further impact leasing decisions. The real estate market in San Francisco continues to face challenges despite the presence of AI companies and some positive indicators.

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By @fundad - 5 months
"companies are looking to relocate to higher quality space in more desirable parts of the city, because prices have come down and employers need to be near restaurants and shops to get staffers to come back"

This is a correction that makes sense: occupancy is shifting to benefit the small businesses that provide amenities like restaurants and shops.

SF's attempt to make office park-like experiences in transit deserts made a lot of money for real estate developers but these properties need to be massively written down.

By @debacle - 5 months
I love being in an office. I think it makes me more productive (in my role, 10% coding 90% management), I enjoy the face to face communication, and I think it is difficult to do some of what I do from my home office.

That said, I would likely need 30-40k from a company to give up the personal convenience of a <60 second commute, the ability to get fresh air when I want it, etc. And when I am in coding mode, the absolute quiet is a must.

By @Animats - 5 months
Either AI doesn't work, and there's little demand for office space for people working at AI firms, or it does work, and there's little demand for office space for people working at AI firms.
By @darth_avocado - 5 months
The city (and it's defendants) refuse to acknowledge or address the problems that prevent people coming to the city:

1. Unreliable and expensive public transportation 2. Expensive tolls and parking 3. High number of car break ins 4. Just a general ugliness to the city: trash, feces, homeless encampments, open drug use, graffiti and boarded up storefronts, crime, and mental illness on full display

Make it easier for people to come in and make them want to come in. With a budget of billions of dollars for such a small city, you'd think these issues would be addressed quickly.

By @nojvek - 5 months
AI firms don’t hire that many people.

They’re burning billions mostly in datacenter runs. AI researchers could be doing 1M+ total comp per year but there aren’t that many to fill vacant office space.

By @sam0x17 - 5 months
My WFH-driven long bet against commercial real estate that I've held since pre-covid times continues to bear fruit
By @doctorpangloss - 5 months
> the average asking rent dropped to $68.27

It's still way too high. Try $10 per sq ft.

By @michaelbrave - 5 months
it was a bubble, bubbles pop eventually
By @skybrian - 5 months
I'm wondering what non-traditional uses people will find for this space as rents drop? In Manhattan, there are a few developers who seem to be doing well at converting some office buildings into housing [1], but it seems like quite a challenge. Perhaps there are better uses?

[1] https://tildes.net/~design/1g5r/nathan_berman_has_helped_res...