July 10th, 2024

How Wikipedia Admin David Gerard Launders His Grudges into the Public Record

Wikipedia administrator David Gerard meticulously evaluates source reliability, influencing content by deeming sources as Reliable or not. His actions spark conflicts among editors, emphasizing the platform's credibility importance.

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How Wikipedia Admin David Gerard Launders His Grudges into the Public Record

The article discusses Wikipedia administrator David Gerard's meticulous approach to ensuring the reliability of sources on the platform. Gerard, with over 200,000 edits, plays a significant role in determining which sources are deemed Reliable or not. He actively removes content from sources considered unreliable, sparking conflicts with other editors. Gerard's standards for Reliable Sources have led to disputes, with some questioning his indiscriminate removals. Notably, Gerard's treatment of various news outlets like Huffington Post, PinkNews, and Reason Magazine reflects his strong opinions on their reliability. He advocates for some sources while dismissing others based on his assessment of their credibility. Gerard's influence extends to shaping Wikipedia's content by determining what sources are considered trustworthy. His actions have sparked debates and conflicts among editors, highlighting the importance of source reliability in maintaining the platform's credibility.

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By @metalcrow - 9 months
This is a good standalone example of the problems people (including a lot of comments on this site) have with Wikipedia. Admins who will rules lawyer you and use their accumulated social capital to manipulate outcomes based on bias.

This happens everywhere, but having it happen on what is considered the main source of truth on the Internet is especially bad.

By @bhouston - 9 months
The article is way way too long. Who would read +20 pages on a single Wikipedia editor? Feels obsessive if you need +20 pages to make a case.

But on the first issue brought up in the article -- I am not going to read all the rest, too long:

Removing things cited to Free Beacon seems fair game. It isn't a reliable source. I know it hurts when your favourite site is declared as unreliable, but it happens to both extreme left and right rags.

There is a list of potential sources on Wikipedia and collective decisions about their reliability here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per...

By @TraceWoodgrains - 9 months
Hm, I'm disappointed that this was flagged. This is my third article that's been flagged here recently, after my FAA article a few months ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39184451) and my deep dive into the backstory of a fight several months before that (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37390961).

My older articles didn't get flagged and were often quite successful on HN:

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=tracingwoodgrains.med... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32898573

I don't submit my own articles here but always appreciate when they reach the HN audience. I admit I find the system here quite opaque and have a hard time understanding what gets flagged and why. Is it because my articles often explore controversies and might get undue attention over some of the more technical content here? Is there some way I could reach out to someone for more info on why my articles keep getting flagged?

By @mostcallmeyt - 9 months
By @ZeroGravitas - 9 months
A big section of this is about neoreactionaries not being connected to LessWrong or readers of SlateStarCodex as they were "distinct and well-defined groups, neither of which particularly liked each other" and claiming that suggesting otherwise is basically a slander invented by the target of the article.

On the other hand, there was a question posted in the SlateStarCodex sub Reddit that asks "Why are there so many neoreactionaries in this sub?” and an answer, from someone who doesn't seem (like several other people answering) to be particularly averse to NeoReactionaries is:

> Anyway the reason is that neoreaction developed in the same Bay Area libertarian circles as LessWrong with a wide degree of community overlap

https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9xm2p8/why_...