July 11th, 2024

Night owls' cognitive function 'superior' to early risers, study suggests

A study from Imperial College London indicates night owls and "intermediate" sleepers may exhibit better cognitive function than early risers. Adequate sleep is crucial for optimal brain performance, emphasizing the need for managing sleep patterns. Experts advise caution due to study limitations.

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Night owls' cognitive function 'superior' to early risers, study suggests

A study conducted by researchers at Imperial College London suggests that night owls may have superior cognitive function compared to early risers. Analyzing data from over 26,000 individuals, the study found that those who stay up late or identify as "intermediate" scored higher on intelligence, reasoning, and memory tests, while morning larks had lower scores. The research emphasized the importance of getting between seven and nine hours of sleep each night for optimal brain performance. Dr. Raha West highlighted the significance of managing sleep patterns to maintain brain health. However, experts cautioned about interpreting the findings, noting limitations in the study such as not considering education attainment or the timing of cognitive tests. The study challenges stereotypes around sleep patterns and suggests potential policy interventions to improve sleep habits in the general population.

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By @Teleoflexuous - 3 months
For the pure fun of breaking the narrative I found original article, it's here: https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/e001000

Time of day (or time after waking up per subject) when tests were administered has not been controlled. Cognitive abilities are mediated by wakefulness (not to mention, related for most people, digestive processes) cycle.

If '"Night owls" smarter than morning people' sounds more plausible than 'time since waking up and last meal predictive of cognitive performance' it's time to get one's identity checked. And I can't imagine 'journalists' from thrash like Sky not knowing that, which brings me to the final point: what is this link doing here?

By @8474_s - 3 months
IIRC teenagers/children suffer greatly from this at the morning, with none of them being "morning people", as this is likely some 'learned habit' driven into people by force. https://time.com/6206470/school-start-times-research/
By @Murky3515 - 3 months
Working at a company and keeping an early morning routine is absolutely brutal to my productivity. I'm a zombie for about 4/5ths of the day, and I start winding up around end of day. Then all night evening and into the night I'm high performing, only to force myself to sleep so I can wake up early again the next day and repeat.

Yes I've tried melatonin, morning full-spectrum light therapy (incl sunlight), nighttime blue light filters, exercise, restricted night diet, alcohol + caffeine + sugar abstinence, and more that I'm sure I forgot about. Morning productivity just doesn't work for me. The world isn't made for night owl workers.

By @nottorp - 3 months
I wonder if it's the time of the day or...

Night people tend to go to bed when they're tired and wake up when they're done sleeping.

Early risers either use an alarm or go to bed / wake up at fixed (i.e. forced) times, mostly due to external constraints.

Is the difference really between scheduled sleep and sleeping when you feel like it?

By @xpl - 3 months
From the article:

Jacqui Hanley, head of research funding at Alzheimer’s Research UK, said: “Without a detailed picture of what is going on in the brain, we don’t know if being a ‘morning’ or ‘evening’ person affects memory and thinking, or if a decline in cognition is causing changes to sleeping patterns.”

By @jauntywundrkind - 3 months
I was deeply touched by PKD describing night as the time outside of the hot baking heat of the Palm Tree Garden, masked from God's hot watchful eye. A time open to free & liquid consideration.

My inhibitions & perfectionism slip away, my barriers fall, and the intrepid explorer in me comes out. I can work without constant self review, try things that I would want to consider more deeply in the day. The night is glorious & great.

By @wiradikusuma - 3 months
I'm a night owl, and I have this guilty feeling that I don't belong because most C-level or VPs I know are morning people who hit the gym after waking up at 5 AM. At least that's what they told me.
By @dmarchand90 - 3 months
I really wish these public articles tried to give some estimate of the magnitude of the effect. Is this a big difference? Barely noticeable without using advanced statistics?

I often think of David Mitchell's commentary on whether stripes make you look fat: https://youtu.be/ISZyJ5MHApI?si=4_hJVLfsvMWWDXKE

By @banish-m4 - 3 months
I'll agree through biased rationalization. It's 1:33 am now and have more tasks to finish rather than procrastinating on HN. Later folks.
By @dweinus - 3 months
So many articles on this paper, none link to it: https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/e001000

In case you want other mental health tips from the study: "Individuals who abstained from alcohol showed lower cognitive scores than those who consumed alcohol"

By @osigurdson - 3 months
I suspect this study has no predictive value. Rather it is just something mildly interesting to cover as news.
By @xpl - 3 months
To me being a night owl is an ability to do hyper focused work at night, free from daytime distractions (e.g. people talking, outdoor noise, meetings/calls/IMs/emails).

I just enjoy to sit in a dark silent room and do things when nothing gets in the way!

By @more_corn - 3 months
Counterpoint: Google did a long-term study of employees. Everyone was more productive in the early hours of the day. Even people who identified as night owls. Cognitive function is different from productivity.
By @anonzzzies - 3 months
I went from a night owl to a morning person; I am vastly more productive as a morning person. No idea about brain function though. I just enjoy finishing all my work at lunch time these days.
By @k310 - 3 months
I'm both. Late to bed and early to rise. Some people just live ok with less than 8 hours sleep.
By @szundi - 3 months
I am pretty sure there is research proving the opposite
By @helloworld42024 - 3 months
I absolutely hate programming during the day!

Working from home and working at night - for me this is the most quiet, energetic and productive time.

By @whimsicalism - 3 months
seems correlational to me
By @_kulang - 3 months
I mean… when did they test the subjects? How much of a day had they had before the tests?
By @Teleoflexuous - 3 months
Copying comment from another thread of the same study (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40933910)

For the pure fun of breaking the narrative I found original article, it's here: https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/e001000

Time of day (or time after waking up per subject) when tests were administered has not been controlled. Cognitive abilities are mediated by wakefulness (not to mention, related for most people, digestive processes) cycle.

If '"Night owls" smarter than morning people' sounds more plausible than 'time since waking up and last meal predictive of cognitive performance' it's time to get one's identity checked. And I can't imagine 'journalists' from thrash like Sky (Guardian this time) not knowing that, which brings me to the final point: what is this link doing here?

By @yieldcrv - 3 months
this is not comparing owls to humans, in case you were wondering