July 11th, 2024

Qualcomm's Oryon Core: A Long Time in the Making

Qualcomm's Oryon Core, a product of the Nuvia acquisition, enhances Snapdragon X Elite with 12 cores in quad-core clusters for high performance and efficiency. It competes with AMD and Intel, boasting unique features for improved performance in the mobile processor market.

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Qualcomm's Oryon Core: A Long Time in the Making

Qualcomm's Oryon Core, developed after the acquisition of Nuvia in 2021, marks a significant advancement in Snapdragon X Elite. The core, featuring 12 Oryon cores in three quad-core clusters, aims to deliver high performance and power efficiency. Unlike previous Qualcomm designs, Oryon does not use a hybrid core configuration, opting for different maximum clocks across clusters for improved performance. The core's architecture, with a focus on core-to-core latency and clock behavior, positions it against competitors like AMD's Phoenix and Intel's Meteor Lake. Oryon's branch prediction capabilities, including direction prediction and branch target caching, contribute to its performance efficiency. The core's out-of-order execution engine, with a large reorder buffer and extensive register files, enables high instruction level parallelism. While Oryon competes closely with Apple's M1 and AMD's Zen 4 in clock speeds and branch prediction, it showcases unique features like a 13-cycle misprediction penalty and a deep 48-entry return stack. Overall, Qualcomm's Oryon Core represents a significant step forward in CPU design, combining elements from Apple's Firestorm and Qualcomm's Kryo architectures to deliver competitive performance in the mobile processor market.

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By @retskrad - 4 months
The M4 is the highest single core CPU in the world and it’s in a ridiculously thin tablet without cooling. I don’t understand where this idea that Apple has lost most of their chip design talent and is in trouble rhetoric is coming from. Apple still makes the world’s most advanced and efficient consumer chips, years after the M1.
By @walterbell - 4 months
> because there has not been any upstreamed Device Tree for this laptop, we were not able to get a Linux desktop installed

Looking forward to tests of Linux on Arm UEFI ("SystemReady") for laptops based on Qualcomm Oryon.

By @kernal - 4 months
>Finally, Snapdragon X Elite devices are too expensive. Phoenix and Meteor Lake laptops often cost less, even when equipped with more RAM and larger SSDs. Convincing consumers to pay more for lower specifications is already a tough sell. Compatibility issues make it even tougher. Qualcomm needs to work with OEMs to deliver competitive prices.

Qualcomm can start by working with their accountants and reducing the price they charge for their SoCs. Rumors indicate the Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 mobile SoC, with Oryon cores, will cost between $220-$240 USD.

By @bhouston - 4 months
From the article it seems like it clones a lot of the Apple M1 technology. So smart acquisition on Qualcomm's part to get competitive again.

Apple engineers who worked on the Apple M4 should go start another company so Qualcomm can acquire it again for +1B. :). Or better yet, acquired by ARM themselves.

It is likely that as this tech makes it to the smartphone market, Android phones are going to get a major speed boost. They have been so uncompetitive against Apple for a while now.

By @perfsea - 4 months
I wonder how effectively it can utilize all of its execution units for common workloads. Frontend boundedness is often a big issue especially with jit
By @phkahler - 4 months
Get proper Linux support and the RISC-V variant they seemed to be working on and I'll buy the laptop ;-) I have no interest in Windows and even less so on ARM.