July 12th, 2024

A.I. Has Become a Technology of Faith

Sam Altman and Arianna Huffington launch Thrive AI Health to provide a hyper-personalized AI health coach using generative AI. Privacy concerns arise amid debates on AI's role in healthcare.

Read original articleLink Icon
A.I. Has Become a Technology of Faith

AI has become a technology of faith, with Sam Altman and Arianna Huffington launching Thrive AI Health, aiming to use generative AI to improve health outcomes. The company plans to offer a hyper-personalized AI health coach that provides insights based on users' health data. However, concerns arise regarding privacy, data security, and the potential misuse of personal information by insurers and data brokers. Altman and Huffington emphasize the importance of data privacy and user understanding. The concept of AI health coaches raises questions about the future of healthcare and the ethical implications of integrating AI into personal health management. Critics question the feasibility and impact of such a product, highlighting the challenges of trusting AI with sensitive health information. The announcement of Thrive AI Health reflects the broader debate surrounding AI's promises and limitations, prompting discussions about the role of AI in society and the need for transparent governance in AI development.

Related

Anthropic CEO on Being an Underdog, AI Safety, and Economic Inequality

Anthropic CEO on Being an Underdog, AI Safety, and Economic Inequality

Anthropic's CEO, Dario Amodei, emphasizes AI progress, safety, and economic equality. The company's advanced AI system, Claude 3.5 Sonnet, competes with OpenAI, focusing on public benefit and multiple safety measures. Amodei discusses government regulation and funding for AI development.

Ari Emanuel calls Sam Altman a "con man" who can't be trusted with AI

Ari Emanuel calls Sam Altman a "con man" who can't be trusted with AI

Ari Emanuel criticizes OpenAI's Sam Altman as untrustworthy in AI development, emphasizing the need for regulation and caution. Altman stresses responsible AI creation with societal input, showcasing differing views on AI's future.

What is 'AI washing' and why is it a problem?

What is 'AI washing' and why is it a problem?

Companies engaging in AI washing exaggerate or misrepresent AI use in products. Regulators in the US act against false claims, while the UK has rules like the Advertising Standards Authority's code. Experts foresee AI losing marketing appeal as it becomes common.

Gen AI takes over finance: The leading applications and their challenges

Gen AI takes over finance: The leading applications and their challenges

Generative AI advances in finance industry with major institutions like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan adopting AI for market analysis, customer service. Challenges include job displacement concerns, data privacy, regulatory issues, and skills gap.

It's not just hype. AI could revolutionize diagnosis in medicine

It's not just hype. AI could revolutionize diagnosis in medicine

Artificial intelligence (AI) enhances medical diagnosis by detecting subtle patterns in data, improving accuracy in identifying illnesses like strokes and sepsis. Challenges like costs and data privacy hinder widespread adoption, requiring increased financial support and government involvement. AI's potential to analyze healthcare data offers a significant opportunity to improve diagnostic accuracy and save lives, emphasizing the importance of investing in AI technology for enhanced healthcare outcomes.

Link Icon 17 comments
By @andersco - 3 months
By @its_ethan - 3 months
> It is a sales pitch, one in which the problems of today are brushed aside or softened as issues of now, which surely, leaders in the field insist, will be solved as the technology gets better. What we see today is merely a shadow of what is coming. We just have to trust them.

I'm a believer that AI is currently over-hyped, but to me this feels applicable to a lot of things that have gone on to be revolutionary. For the smart-phone too, one of the "issues of now" was slow cellular connectivity, which made the premise of using your phone for web-browsing feel like a chore. With cellular speeds "solved" we now live in a world where smart phones are the tool the majority of people use the internet on. https://explodingtopics.com/blog/mobile-internet-traffic

By @AndrewKemendo - 3 months
OpenAI =/= AI

I could sit here and list hundreds of places that AI - specifically deep learning is applied in your daily life to improve it

Yall seem to also forget about Deepmind every time

https://deepmind.google/technologies/alphafold/

They literally solved protein folding with AI and won the Lasker prize

Similarly with AlphaGo etc…

AI is the most frustrating discipline to be in (and also most inspiring imo) because it’s never enough and anything that works, ceases to be AI

AI has always been a technology of faith if you recognize that the lived definition is “any technology that has been conceived but not widely implemented”

By @MulliMulli - 3 months
I was a skeptic after all the hype around Blockchain, Virtual Reality, and other technologies over the last few years. However, I have to say I find AI impressive. Compared to the other things I mentioned, I see cool new products and solutions popping up every week that add real value to my personal and professional life. ChatGPT alone saves me at least 10 hours of work every week, with more savings all the time.
By @GaggiX - 3 months
Machine learning is really the only way to deal with non-formal, unstructured data, there is nothing to believe, the technology has been battle tested by billions of people, just think of BERT used by Google Search or all the AI models used for moderation, translation or detection and many more cases. But I guess all these use cases are just too boring to talk about today, AI has already helped millions of people at least, including me since I'm a native English speaker, I learned a lot just by using Deepl or YouTube with the auto-generated captions (which are much better today than they were in the past).
By @k310 - 3 months
The future’s bright if we get there. Each new technology, be it search (with surveillance compute load), crypto, and now AI, places enormous load on the grid, that also serves consumers, something as un-glamorous as air conditioning. AI or A/C?

“Oh, but it’s different this time.”

Shiny objects competing with survival. Tell that to non-1337 working stiffs and retirees on a fixed income saddled with enormous PG&E bills.

Please innovate in more useful and less shiny ways. The planet is literally burning up, not just my little piece of it.

By @shinycode - 3 months
AI can’t solve everything because, although most things can be described and explained. Most other have to be experienced. And even though something sounds nice in text, once experienced we can say if it’s good or not.

For example, an AI can create a recipe that sounds good, but it will never be able to ground those choices on experience. Only through other people’s experiences combined, which might not be great in the end. And it won’t ever produce and adjust it based on its experience.

The same for a lot of other things that AI is meant to « replace ».

By @aaroninsf - 3 months
Every critique of AI assumes to some degree that contemporary implementations will not, or cannot, be improved upon. -Ximm's Law
By @tomatohs - 3 months
AI is a machine that can creates more than what you put in. That is "value creation" by definition.

If you've used AI, you know it's a massive timesaver. I find a lot of those who are skeptical haven't used it very much.

By @WalterSear - 3 months
A.I. Has Become a Technology of Smug Pshaw, Pshaw, I Didn't Understand Blockchain Either And Look How That Turned Out.
By @bell-cot - 3 months
Techno-utopianism requires a new & different Awesome New Technologies every few years - once people start to realize that the previous ANT ain't gonna take us to the Promised Land after all. Just like the previoius ANT didn't, and the one before that didn't, and the one before...

On the bright side - at least they aren't trying to sell us on the idea of nuclear-powered cars, or commuting via rocket-belt anymore.

By @lucianbr - 3 months
> the bulk of the conversation about AI’s greatest capabilities is premised on a vision of a theoretical future

Yeah. 99% of the positive opinions I read about AI are "in X years it will do Y, Z, and that will change everything". As if the future is easily predictable.

Where are the flying cars? Where is the moon base? Why isn't everyone moving around on Segways? You never know what will happen. Some techs do grow exponentially, but not all, and it's impossible to know for sure which one will, ahead of time.

Alas. I doubt anyone will change their opinion. "This one is different." Ah well.

By @650 - 3 months
Of course this had to be whisked off the front page ;)

> Through an op-ed in Time, Altman and Huffington had just announced the launch of a new company called Thrive AI Health

Launching Companies Grifter, I guess he found his shtick.

By @amiantos - 3 months
I think this movement around 'debunking AI' is entirely the fault of marketing and company CEOs inflating the potential around generative AI to such ridiculous amounts. Of course after CEOs toured the country shouting about the dangers and virtues of AI as if it will destroy the world or remake it into something better, and that it will do it any minute now, everyone is 'annoyed' now that neither thing has happened already. How long ago were people screaming and crying that AI development must be slowed down by world governments or else?

Similar tone in this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8ByoAt5gCA

I say 'annoyed' with quotes, because as far as I can tell it's largely journalists and the media machine that seem to be taking a gleeful lap telling everyone how AI hasn't measured up after promoting the idea that AI will steal all their jobs and ruin the internet.

I think that's the fun part of some of these perspectives, that inherent conflict, that journalists want to convince us that AI is very dangerous technology and that it's stealing all their work and it's going to put everyone out of a job... but also AI is not living up to expectations and it's a nothing burger and all these companies are a joke selling lies to people. It's really hard square these conflicting storylines being served to us by the press (who are obviously biased against the technology that they think will destroy their livelihoods).

I hate to sound like one of those "you can't just journalism!" cranks, because I feel that way about nothing else, but in this case sometimes the vitriol coming from journalists about AI related technologies seems a bit much.

By @benreesman - 3 months
It can be both a big deal fundamentally and a major pillar of a weird, scary religion. It is currently both.

Of course machine learning is a big deal, it was a big deal a decade ago and more. We know it’s a big deal.

This Calvinism meets growth hacking, this Scientology for Atherton thing is bizarre and kind of terrifying.

It is in no way surprising that a philosophy that justifies short-run amoral wealth maximization with tired arguments about long-run utilitarianism would turn out any other way.

What’s surprising is that people who talk about imminent digital gods are put in positions of vast power instead of therapy.

By @SamJose - 3 months
In the early 80's home computers were a technology of faith. Many thought it was absurd that many people would want computers in their home.