Nokia 6600 vs. Samsung S24 Ultra

>Battery life has gone down. When you consider that the battery capacity has gone up, you realise how much more power-hungry the S24 Ultra is.

Sure the standby time is far lower, but the talk time has greatly increased. The talk time of the Nokia 6600 was between 2 and 4 hours.

Our memory of long battery life is simply explained: the phone did very little and we used them far less. Modern smartphones can also perform active user-driven functions without significantly reducing the standby time. For example, continuous music playback can lessen the standby time by as little as 15% on modern devices.

> Battery life has gone down. When you consider that the battery capacity has gone up, you realise how much more power-hungry the S24 Ultra is.

I bought a Samsung S7 tablet, and first thing I did (as I always do on all my Androids) is to enable USB Debugging and adb install NoRootFirewall.apk. There were so many apps that wanted to 'phone home', and the battery would drain after 24-36h with almost no use.

After I uninstalled or disabled 'a lot' of its apps/bloatware, the battery is performing significantly better. When idling (lid closed, in my bookcase) the battery lasts for weeks. When reading, the battery lasts for days (I'm reading indoors so I use ReadEra and I keep the Brightness at 20-30%).

So I don't blame the battery, I blame the bloatware.

My 6630 even had a maps app! No GPS, you had to actually read the map to know where you were. I had the Transport for London WAP page for my bus times. I had everything I needed!

Smartphones in the same class as the S24 Ultra are marvels of engineering. The fact that we no longer think how amazing modern technology is and instead focus solely on their intended functions is a testament to how much we as a civilization have achieved.

What is notable here to me is how in computing we used to expect 2x improvement every 18-24 months, so for 20 years that would have meant 1000-10000x improvement. Yet almost all the increases are <1000x here.

> I wonder how things will look 20 years from now. I'm sure raw specs will continue to improve and make my shiny, new S24 Ultra look as dated then as it does my 6600 today.

Not happening. We are very close to various limits imposed by physics. I don't even believe SGS 44U will be more than 3-4 times faster than SGS 24U in ST mode, if not less.

Feature phones have not gone anywhere.

Modern feature phones are great for hiking or for children. I have modern Nokia 800 Tough 4Glte with me when I take long hikes

- 43 days of standby time from a single charge. 2,100 mAh1 removable battery.

- WhatsApp messaging, google maps etc. all basic apps you need.

OT but since it's mentioned. Has there been any new evolution in the vision pro space?

I haven't heard it mentioned since it was launched, I haven't heard over the internet about people using it at all, nor I've heard of any killer app coming the VR headset.

And, if you pair the phone with the smart watch, your watch can help you find the phone.

I typically don't use this, as I can get a few more steps in on the tracker wandering around the house looking for the phone, but it does help when time is of essence.

> I don't need to carry my credit/debit cards anymore

first world problems?

I don't think you can count the camera captor size to face value when the software use pixel binning technique to get decent pictures. You need to consider the size of the end result.

You can also somtimes plug the old nokia phone to USB and start making calls, reading/deleting SMS and many more over standard AT commands.

Also very convenient.

I for one have a feeling we've reached the plateau of form and function some time ago already: a slab with a touchscreen on one side and some camera(s) on the other.

In other words: smartphones got boring, which often goes with maturity ( :-) ).

The "AI features", "folding this way", "folding that way" - sure, cool to have some gimmicks - perhaps actually important features in some (niche?) use-cases?

Smartphone is a tool nowadays, in many cases a rather inescapable one (auth, banking, transport...). And please remember: there is no force of nature making you install news/social media apps and then doom scroll.

I love 6600 as much as the next guy, but have you seen the zoom on the s24 ultra camera?

There was also no need to buy a case and a screen protector.

* I needed a new phone *

Did you really?

decided to treat myself

Or did you need a dopamine hit ;)

Modern phones offer no net productivity gain.

They just make you busy.

Edge case solutions already have edge case solutions.