July 30th, 2024

The Myth of the Noble Savage

The "noble savage" concept, often linked to Rousseau, is challenged by anthropologist Ter Ellingson, who argues it misrepresents Indigenous peoples' relationship with nature and oversimplifies ecological narratives.

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The Myth of the Noble Savage

The concept of the "noble savage" has historically portrayed Indigenous peoples as living harmoniously with nature, a narrative often traced back to philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau. However, anthropologist Ter Ellingson argues that this idea is a myth, as Rousseau did not use the term "noble savage" and was not as laudatory about primitive societies as commonly believed. The term's origins can be found in the writings of Marc Lescarbot, a 16th-century French traveler who admired the Mi’kmaq people, associating their cultural traits with European nobility. This romanticized view of Indigenous peoples as ecologically conscious has persisted, particularly in the context of the environmental movement, which emerged in response to the rapid destruction of natural landscapes in North America.

The association of Indigenous peoples with environmental stewardship has evolved, reframing their perceived primitiveness into a narrative of ecological wisdom. This has led to the emergence of the "ecologically noble savage" archetype, suggesting that all humanity once existed in a state of nature, with some groups maintaining this connection while others deviated into exploitative practices. However, the validity of this narrative remains uncertain, particularly when considering the role of early humans in the extinction of large species like the woolly mammoth. The debate continues over whether prehistoric humans had a significant impact on their environment or if their influence was overstated due to their small populations and primitive technology.

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By @ahmeneeroe-v2 - 4 months
>As a species, we can choose whether to repeat the actions and conduct of our ancestors.

The conclusion of this article does not match the intro/middle. It also isn't at all apparent to me that this is true from my observations of real life. It is certainly true at the individual-scale, but I don't see evidence for this at the civilization/global-scale.

By @rdtsc - 4 months
> Even aside from the purely intellectual offense of their untruth, narratives of perceived Indigenous “naturalness” and ecological harmony have served to burden tribal peoples across the world with unreasonable and often impossible expectations, often accompanied by serious repercussions when they inevitably fall short.

At the simpler, personal level, it would also feel kind of patronizing to have some outsiders come in and start ascribing all these qualities to you, or expect certain behaviors, even if on the surface they seem well meaning. Maybe, someone doesn’t want to identify their past ancestors as some tree hugging hippies, may they were more likely warriors, hunting, killing better than others.

By @lusus_naturae - 4 months
I am unsure what to trust about the knowledge of this essayist if they don’t even mention Le Rat or Jesuit missionary work in the New world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondiaronk

Apologies if I missed these references in the article, I found that the essayist was confused about the actual roots of the myth. Rousseau comes at least 200 years later.

By @coldtea - 4 months
Ah, the myth of the debunking of the myth of the noble savage
By @dweinus - 4 months
They take down the myth, but in this whole long article I didn't see any attempts to get quotes/perspective from actual indigenous people. Why?