July 31st, 2024

Is A.I. Art Stealing from Artists? (2023)

Artists Kelly McKernan, Sarah Andersen, and Karla Ortiz have filed a class-action lawsuit against A.I. image generators for copyright infringement, raising concerns about the impact of A.I. on artistic jobs and rights.

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Is A.I. Art Stealing from Artists? (2023)

A class-action lawsuit has been filed by artists Kelly McKernan, Sarah Andersen, and Karla Ortiz against A.I. image generators Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, and DreamUp, claiming that these tools infringe on their copyrights by using their works without consent or compensation. The lawsuit highlights that generative A.I. tools utilize a database, LAION-5B, which contains over five billion images, including copyrighted artwork. The artists argue that the outputs of these A.I. systems are derivative works that do not transform the original material but merely blend it mechanically. Legal precedents in copyright cases have shown mixed outcomes regarding the use of style and source material, complicating the artists' claims. The lawsuit follows a similar case against GitHub's Copilot, which allegedly used open-source code without proper attribution. As A.I. technology becomes more prevalent, artists like McKernan express concern over declining job opportunities, as publishers increasingly opt for A.I. generated art instead of hiring human artists. The rise of A.I. also blurs the lines between creator and consumer, as users can generate art and music without traditional artistic skills. Critics argue that while A.I. can produce aesthetically pleasing images, it lacks the depth and intention of human-created art. The ongoing debate raises fundamental questions about the nature of art and the rights of original creators in an era where A.I. can replicate and remix their work.

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By @minimaxir - 6 months
This post is from 2023, and the mentioned lawsuit is still ongoing, with the last update in May 2024 saying the lawsuit can go forward: https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/stability-ai-midjou...
By @gnabgib - 6 months
(2023) Discussions (19+16 points, 1 year ago, 90+16 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34751031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34744059
By @ChrisArchitect - 6 months
(2023) why the post OP?

Some discussion then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34751031

By @petesergeant - 6 months
I have to believe the answer will be found to be yes, but, unencumbered or appropriately licensed datasets will show up (and are probably being actively sourced by major players). I have some sympathy for artists whose style can be mimicked by people just name-checking them.
By @blackeyeblitzar - 6 months
This question is increasingly equivalent to asking if everyone is stealing from everyone else. The short answer is no. But it is possible that a lot of activities will become impossible to do if their value is moved to some AI
By @NuSkooler - 6 months
These discussions continue to come up, and I feel like it's wasting time on the wrong issues.

Is AI *borrowing concepts* from artists? Yep. Do artists borrow concepts from other artists? Yep. Is AI or humans in a vacuum when creating new art? Nope. Is the cat out of the bag? Yep. Is this the same with text? Code? Literally anything AI generates? Yep.

A major problem is AI being used to replace humans, which of course, is borrowing concepts from humans... which, oops, you just replaced. It's not just artists.

We have much bigger issues than "AI is stealing my art". It's really not. It's just being used to "optimize" you, the human, out of the equation.

By @ravenstine - 6 months
If AI art is stealing then perhaps a significant number of us should be behind bars right now.
By @moose44 - 6 months
A photocopier isn't an artist, even if it can re-create the Mona Lisa.