August 6th, 2024

No Salt

The author visits his terminally ill brother Jake, reflecting on their improved relationship and shared interests. He takes on funeral arrangements and plans to prepare a meal for Jake and Bess.

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No Salt

The author reflects on the emotional turmoil of visiting his brother Jake, who is nearing the end of his battle with cancer. Jake's wife, Bess, is overwhelmed and unable to manage post-death arrangements, prompting the author to take on the responsibility of finding a funeral home. He grapples with the transactional nature of funeral services while reminiscing about his strained relationship with Jake, which has improved through shared experiences, including their mutual interest in cooking and psychedelics. The author describes the stark reality of Jake's condition, noting the absence of food in their home, which symbolizes the loss of Jake's passion for cooking. A poignant moment occurs when he discovers an empty salt container, leading him to weep, as it signifies the end of Jake's culinary contributions. The author resolves to prepare a simple meal for Bess and Jake, emphasizing the importance of food in their lives and the deep emotional connections tied to it. The narrative captures themes of grief, familial bonds, and the struggle to find meaning in the face of impending loss.

- The author is visiting his brother Jake, who is terminally ill with cancer.

- Jake's wife, Bess, is struggling to cope with the situation and manage funeral arrangements.

- The author reflects on their previously strained relationship and their shared interests in cooking and psychedelics.

- A significant moment occurs when the author finds an empty salt container, symbolizing Jake's inability to cook.

- The author plans to prepare a meal for Bess and Jake, highlighting the emotional significance of food.

AI: What people are saying
The comments reflect a deep emotional response to the article about the author's relationship with his terminally ill brother, Jake. Common themes include:
  • Many commenters share personal experiences with loss and the impact of illness on family relationships.
  • Expressions of grief and sorrow are prevalent, with several commenters offering condolences and support.
  • Food and cooking are highlighted as significant ways to express love and connection, resonating with the author's plans for a meal.
  • There is a call for continued awareness and discussion around health issues, particularly related to clinical trials and ALS.
  • Several comments reflect on the importance of cherishing relationships and the memories created with loved ones.
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By @dang - 2 months
Recent and related (and heartbreaking):

Starting Hospice - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41157974 - Aug 2024 (116 comments)

By @domano - 2 months
A bit over a year ago I lost a dear friend, while his girlfriend was pregnant.

The feeling of seeing something the person will never use again is soul wrenching. I wept when I read the line "No salt. No salt means that he’s not cooking. He’ll never cook again."

The child is a ray of light for me whenever I see it, I hope the family can find a little comfort in this piece of him that will be brought into the world.

I have followed this story for a while now and wish the family a brighter path in the future. Thank you for focussing my thoughts on what is important, instead of the daily tech grind.

By @tonyb - 2 months
Damn - this + the hospice piece really hits home.

My dad is rapidly loosing his battle with ALS. He has always loved to cut grass. He has very limited mobility (in some ways he is lucky, most people with late stage ALS are basically paralyzed. His progression is respiratory focuses so he is loosing the ability to breath faster than the ability to walk) but with some assistance has still been able to use my zero turn mower and get a little joy out of cutting my grass.

Just this Sunday he reached the point where he can't cut anymore...I guess he is out of salt :'(

By @rpmisms - 2 months
This is written in focus mode. Once you're out of that, remember to grieve. So, so important. I can't imagine my brother dying, love and prayers to you and his family.
By @keiferski - 2 months
I don’t think there are any modern startup “inventions” which bother me more than meal replacements like Soylent. It’s not that there’s something wrong with having a nutrition shake to replace a meal if you’re in a rush.

It’s more that food, cooking, and eating (alone and with other people) seem like some of the most human things you can do. And so trying to optimize them out of existence feels wrong, a crime against culture. Long after the AIs have replaced entire classes of jobs and hobbies, cooking will still be around.

By @dvt - 2 months
I, like many others here on HN, have been following Jake Seliger’s difficult road for the past few years. Thankfully from afar, as I can't imagine what he (or his family) must be going through. But getting email updates, seeing his blog pop up on here every now and then, it's become comforting and familiar, and a symbol of hope: that he's still kicking.

I really hope his wife (or brother, or both) will continue writing after he moves on.

By @jpgvm - 2 months
Man. As someone who also expresses love through food that hit way fucking harder than I was expecting.

RIP Jake. May heaven have the most extravagant spice cabinet waiting for you.

By @Sl1mb0 - 2 months
I have a little brother. And while I would say we are close, I always wonder how he feels about me. I was not nice to him growing up, and it created a lot of resentment. One day I apologized to him about it, and I remember him seeing tear up out of the corner of my eye.

The day that I think changed our relationship we went on a hike together. While we were driving there he had a bunch of anxiety about it, and wanted to back out. I managed to convince him to come with me and just let all his feelings out; he just yelled at me the entire drive there about a lot of different things. Including my treatment of him.

That hike to this day was the best I've ever been on. Everybody has a different relationship with their brother, but I genuinely do not and cannot imagine this existence without mine. He understands me in ways that nobody else does. He gets my jokes that nobody else does. Having a brother you are close with just _almost_ proves you don't die alone.

By @Yossarrian22 - 2 months
I'll put a little legitimate saffron in a dish this month, in Jake's memory.
By @yinser - 2 months
If life is a river and your heart is a boat

And just like a water baby, baby born to float

And if life is a wild wind that blows way on high

Then your heart is Amelia dying to fly

Heaven knows no frontiers

And I've seen heaven in your eyes - Mary Black

By @unethical_ban - 2 months
That small thing that reveals a bigger truth. I had to check myself so I wouldn't tear up at the bar.
By @kstrauser - 2 months
Last week we lost our Boston terrier. A chronic illness turned acute. What I thought was a routine trip to the vet turned into The Talk.

I held our little girl as the vet helped her go to sleep and told her: “It’s ok. You can rest now. We love you so much, but you don’t have to fight for us anymore. Lay down and sleep. It won’t hurt anymore.”

I’m glad Jake is surrounded by people who love him. I’m sure they’re telling him the same things. And I’m also sure it’s harder for them to let go of their beloved husband and brother than it will be for him to close his eyes and finally rest.

Sending much love his way, and also theirs.

By @red_admiral - 2 months
> I have learned much, experienced much, made many mistakes, enjoyed my triumphs, suffered my defeats, and, most vitally, experienced love.

At the end of the day, what more can we wish for in a human life than this?

By @JohnMakin - 2 months
Man, the part about the credit card at the funeral home hit me really hard.

When I was 20, I witnessed my dad collapse in front of me as the result of years-long battle with heart disease, failed to help him with CPR, and saw him "officially" die in front of my eyes at a hospital 30 minutes later.

Barely hours later I am in a funeral home trying to make arrangements for a cremation because he had no will, assets, or last wishes, and yea, that transactional vibe hit really hard - they were feigning empathy, but I was 20, broke, just suffered a pretty traumatic event and was in quite a vulnerable state. It felt disgusting that they were trying to "upsell" me on services and every step of the process felt designed to wring every single dime that I had out of me. Luckily I didn't have much to give at that time or I probably would have.

By @Diederich - 2 months
This is...hard but important.
By @yard2010 - 2 months
Sorry for being angry but this is fucking sucks. It's not fair in any way. I'm speechless besides that. This is a nightmare.

Sending all the love I can to you Jake Bess and family. I wish somehow I could do anything to change this or make you feel better.

By @lrivers - 2 months
Crying at work from reading something on HN was not on my bingo card. Godspeed Jake
By @renewiltord - 2 months
Ah fuck, mate. It’s his brother. Very poignant.

Jake Seliger’s posts have been great in detailing the process he’s taken to fight the disease. I am grateful for his work.

By @NeutralForest - 2 months
I'll keep reading all those updates until the last. Thank you.
By @solveit - 2 months
Rest in peace.
By @chrisbrandow - 2 months
Beautiful
By @torlok - 2 months
> Both of us lacked the emotional maturity to form deep, meaningful relationships with other people.

> Jake loves his plug-in induction stovetop, and thinks it worthwhile despite its cost.

These are Amazon affiliate links to random crap in the middle of a blog about a brother dying to cancer about to leave a pregnant wife. What is happening here.

By @vinnyvichy - 2 months
Thank you, Jake! ---and your family--- for your links and work that highlight the importance of clinical trials for mRNA tumor vaccines! Will keep posting to HN her articles when they come out.

https://archive.ph/bessstillman.substack.com

(Archive listing jseliger's wife Bess Stillman on clinical trials (including how to navigate them as patients) as well as comments)

Suggestions for concrete directions that have been mentioned, that are worth highlighting, in order of importance:

0) assume good faith

1) promote (& improve) Right-to-Try

https://www.fda.gov/media/133864/download#:~:text=Right%20to....

2) donate to (or even joining!) HN-adjacent Arc Institute (mRNA translational research)

3) sue the FDA for clinical trials, in general. This is not a call to attack on the FDA, but perhaps the best way, to improve processes, that is available to citizens.

Here's one case https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/10/xocova-en...

By @SoftTalker - 2 months
If you've already decided on cremation, look for a local Cremation Society. The term you're looking for is "simple cremation" where the deceased is cremated and the ashes returned to you. No ceremonies, no viewing, minimal decisions, minimal expense. Some funeral homes offer this also, they aren't the only option.

The celebration of life at a later date can then be organized when all involved are feeling up to it.

By @vinnyvichy - 2 months
Thank you, Jake! ---and your family--- for your links and work that highlight the importance of clinical trials for mRNA tumor vaccines! I will post your wife's work to HN when it comes out. https://archive.ph/bessstillman.substack.com

(Archive listing jseliger's wife Bess Stillman on clinical trials (including how to navigate them as patients) as well as comments)

Suggestions for concrete directions that have been mentioned, that are worth highlighting, in order of importance:

0) assume good faith

1) promote (& improve) Right-to-Try

https://www.fda.gov/media/133864/download#:~:text=Right%20to....

2) donate to (or even joining!) HN-adjacent Arc Institute (for mRNA translational research)

3) sue the FDA for clinical trials, in general. This is NOT a call to attack the FDA, but perhaps the best way, to improve processes, that is available to citizens.

Here's one case https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/10/xocova-en...

By @bravura - 2 months
I read this to the end, and was presently surprised that the takehome wasn't: "Don't use salt, it gave my friend cancer."