Verso – web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

So we will, in ~5 years time have two new browser, one in Rust and one in Swift.

I hope in the process of doing it we will find new ways of doing things.

According to https://servo.org/about/ Servo currently passes ~60% of the web platform tests. Does anyone have experience how far that subset gets you on the open internet?

Nice! There is also Servo webview for Qt: https://github.com/KDABLabs/cxx-qt-servo-webview and Servo webview for Tauri: https://github.com/tauri-apps/wry/tree/servo-wry-demo

Hopefully we can get more web browsers with embedded Servo engine (e.g. as a QtWebEngine replacement).

In other exciting Servo-browser news, Servo and Redox OS have submitted a joint proposal to fund the porting of SpiderMonkey and WebRender to Redox: https://www.redox-os.org/news/this-month-240731/

It's great to see the attention to servo growing - the number of people starring servo on gh just keeps going up! There's a chart on https://toot.cafe/@bkardell/112931971129556513

One big reason to want change is to change the funding model that currently supports the existing browser projects, which isn't great and is threatened too...

Every time a new browser appears and is applauded by HN, a NetSurf dev opens a beer...

Does this do anything to improve the browser as a user agent? That is an agent that obeys the user over the server. None of the current browsers are user friendly and none are scriptable except by experts wielding large external programs.

It should be possible to write a simple shell script to navigate the web, to log in to web sites, to extract information. Or something like Visual Basic.

It'd be nice if people stopped recommending "yet another new and exciting package manager for Windows" that you have no idea of whether you can trust it or not.

Git, Python, llvm, cmake, and curl all have perfectly normal windows installers available from their own websites, and if you're a programmer who has to, or chooses to work on Window, it's a good bet you already have either most or all of these already installed, making the job of completing your bonus objective probably one, maybe two installs at most.

I don't understand what the advantages are over Servo's inbuilt web browser¹. So far they look the same when opening but the inbuilt web browser is more stable (I see rendering bugs with Verso and it panics when entering a domain without the http(s):// prefix).

¹ https://servo.org/download/

I'm happy to see work being done in integrating Servo into custom browser chrome. My dream browser would be a servo based Qutebrowser. I can only hope.

I hope that this project will succeed.

Incidentally, Verso is also the name of Lean 4’s DSL for typesetting documentation.[1] We are running out of words in the English language.

[1] https://github.com/leanprover/verso

The x64.dmg release[1] requires macOS 13+, why?

[1] https://web.crabnebula.cloud/verso/verso-nightly/releases

Have a read about Servo, it is binding with SpiderMonkey as JS engine.

Is there some chance, that servo decomposed from SpiderMonkey? If it is not, I don't think anyone can tell difference between firefox and other browser use Servo.

1. The repository README doesn't explain what Servo is. From its own repo README:

https://github.com/servo/servo

"Servo is a prototype web browser engine written in the Rust language. It is currently developed on 64-bit macOS, 64-bit Linux, 64-bit Windows, and Android."

So, this browser seems to be about using Rust, and somewhat Mac-centric. Not criticizing, just emphasizing.

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2. The repository does not explain:

* How far along the project is.

* What are the benefits / points of attraction of the browser (or - perhaps it's more of a proof-of-concept?)

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3. The project has a highly repressive Code of Conduct:

* Forbidden behavior is open-ended and at the discretion of whoever handles a complaint.

* No due process: Anonymous complaints, in-abstentia proceedings, no right to face accuser, no right to access and review evidence, etc.

* The project leaders/owners presume to forbid community members from interacting with people whom project leaders decided to ban. This is a bit like how when the US sanctions a state, it also strong-arms everybody else to observe its sanctions or themselves get sanctioned by the US.

Bottom line: I would avoid getting close to that project, if the CoC is actually applied. If it isn't - very much recommend removing it.

I like it because it's Rust

Interesting but it seems like a super early stage (or maybe Windows support isn't there yet.)

Nigh unusable on Windows (11). Mostly just opens an empty window that has stopped responding. I finally tried running as admin and it works more consistently now. Webview for https://www.google.com looks like a messed up mobile view. My company's website doesn't work at all, (NextJS) so I guess they don't have a js engine yet?

And of course, they've gone with a pushover licence. Or two of them, it looks like.

There's still zero day exploits found in chromium, wouldn't using using this put you at a huge risk of running into malware in the wild that this browser can't protect against?

It might be the head cold I'm recovering from, but it took me about 3 passes to comprehend their tagline:

> A web browser that plays old world blues to build new world hope

The linux (flatpak) instructions seem to be out of date or at least not working for me on Fedora; but I'm a flatpak noob so maybe I missed something

edit: missed the part where i still need to clone the repo. but also a requirements.txt would be appreciated!

Serious Question: With risk of being hated, this is an honest question:

I've never sought out another browser than using pretty much any of the big three...

Just because I have never had any sort of personal workflow/painpoint/interest in any of these other browsers/engines, that frankly I had never heard of and then another thing pops up every few years with yet another new one that I havent heard of -- but they all seem to have lively communities...

The question is:

What is the primary drive/utility that you/others are seeking/gaining with these none FF/chrome/edge things?

As Mozilla chose to abandon it, is Firefox still using servo?

Any post or article that explains what this does better or new as compared to existing engines like Chromium or WebKit when it's feature complete?

Nix first class citizen via `nix-shell`. Nice.

Typo dont' -> don't

This seems really promising

"a web browser that plays old world blues to give new world hope"

Um... what?

Interesting perspective!

doesn't work with windows

https://github.com/versotile-org/verso/issues/118

Isn't servo is in development for more than a decade? They already have legacy code before it even became stable, lol.

If anyone is willing to put an effort in building a new browser, I have just one wish - allow embedding open-source transformers in the browser; available for both the user and websites/extensions.