August 12th, 2024

NASA is about to make its most important safety decision in nearly a generation

NASA is deciding on the Boeing Starliner spacecraft's safety amid concerns from recent thruster failures. Astronauts have exceeded their planned mission duration, prompting consideration of using a SpaceX Dragon for return.

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NASA is about to make its most important safety decision in nearly a generation

NASA is poised to make a critical safety decision regarding the Boeing Starliner spacecraft, which is currently on a test flight with astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams. This decision is considered one of the most significant in human spaceflight in over two decades. The astronauts have been in orbit for nearly ten weeks, far exceeding the planned duration of just over a week. The key figures involved in this decision, including Ken Bowersox, Steve Stich, and LeRoy Cain, have historical ties to the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster in 2003, which resulted in the loss of seven astronauts. Their experiences during that tragedy have heightened the scrutiny surrounding the Starliner mission, particularly due to recent thruster failures and helium leaks. While returning the astronauts in the Starliner would be ideal for operational continuity, concerns remain about the spacecraft's reliability. Some engineers are not fully confident in the thrusters' performance, which raises the possibility of using a SpaceX Dragon capsule for the return instead. The decision will weigh the risks of the Starliner against the operational implications for NASA's future crew rotation flights.

- NASA is making a crucial safety decision regarding the Boeing Starliner spacecraft.

- Astronauts have been on an extended test flight, raising safety concerns.

- Key decision-makers have historical ties to the Columbia disaster, influencing their caution.

- Recent thruster failures have led to uncertainty about the Starliner's reliability.

- The decision may involve choosing between Starliner and SpaceX Dragon for the astronauts' return.

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By @lupusreal - 2 months
This should be an easy choice for NASA. The whole point of having different vehicles available is to make this kind of choice easy. With Dragon available, there should be no pressure to use Starliner. That this is apparently controversial shows that NASA has lost the plot.
By @influx - 2 months
I wonder at what point the astronauts can veto NASA on this. In airplanes, the pilot in command has the last word about whether to take an aircraft into the air.
By @romwell - 2 months
Given all that we know, that system shouldn't have flown to the ISS.

Sincerely hoping NASA plays it safe this time.

A tragedy would have far-reaching consequences for both NASA and the US, well beyond the horrifying loss of life.

By @marklar423 - 2 months
It appears to me there's probably a "best of both worlds" compromise:

1. Send the astronauts home on Dragon

2. Certify Starliner for human flight if it can make it home safely (uncrewed)

If the capsule can make it down, it doesn't matter if there were people in it or not, right?

By @goodSteveramos - 2 months
For context on cost, SpaceX only charged NASA $3.1 billion for developing the Dragon 2 manned capsule. Boeing charged NASA $6.7 billion for Starliner and has spend at least 1.6 billion more than that so far.
By @bell-cot - 2 months
If NASA decided that Butch & Suni would be flying SpaceX on their return trip, that would probably allow more aggressive testing of the Starliner's thruster systems after it departs the ISS.

In theory, the ISS crew could do a spacewalk or two before departure, to get a closer look at the problematic hardware. In practice - no time to plan nor train for that, improvised-at-best tools, and all the myriad ways that a flaky NTO/hydrazine fuel system could suddenly go very wrong - I'd be really surprised if they attempted anything.

By @bell-cot - 2 months
Closely related story -

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/08/with-starliner-stuck-i...

- by a journalist who seems very well connected with NASA folks. And who seems to be dropping a fair number of "they're fly home on SpaceX" hints.

By @russfink - 2 months
Can someone spell out the consequences of a failed thruster? Eg miss the reentry cone and skip off the atmosphere into space?
By @ngneer - 2 months
In God we trust. All others must bring data.
By @riffic - 2 months
why take the risk.
By @doctorpangloss - 2 months
> ...maintain a clearer future for Boeing's Starliner program, which NASA would like to become operational for regular crew rotation flights to the station.

Why do people in the government bend over so deeply backwards for this shitty company?

By @farceSpherule - 2 months
F*ck NASA and their "Starliner."

Soyuz is the most reliable and most successful vehicle at this point.

NASA simply does not want to use it because they will lose face.

By @9659 - 2 months
The SpaceX vehicle may look like the safest choice. But is it? A handful of manned flights does not prove that a vehicle is 'safe'. Likewise, some anomalies in 1 flight do not prove 'unsafe'.

Perhaps the knowledge of Starliner issues makes it more accurate to assess the risk.

Either vehicle could lose the crew on the return. "Astronauting" is a risky business.

I do not envy anyone on the decision chain.