August 24th, 2024

AMD's Radeon 890M: Strix Point's Bigger iGPU

AMD's Radeon 890M iGPU, part of the Strix Point mobile chip, features eight WGPs, LPDDR5-7500 memory for 120 GB/s bandwidth, and outperforms its predecessor while competing with Intel's Meteor Lake.

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AMD's Radeon 890M: Strix Point's Bigger iGPU

AMD's latest integrated graphics processing unit (iGPU), the Radeon 890M, is part of the Strix Point mobile chip, which features an upgraded architecture and a larger GPU compared to its predecessor, Phoenix. The Radeon 890M includes eight Workgroup Processors (WGPs), an increase from six in previous generations, enhancing its compute capabilities. The iGPU maintains a similar memory subsystem to Phoenix, with a shared 2 MB L2 cache and improved bandwidth through LPDDR5-7500 memory, achieving a theoretical bandwidth of 120 GB/s. Strix Point's architecture allows for efficient data transfers, with a notable 38 GB/s copy bandwidth between CPU and GPU. Performance benchmarks indicate that the Radeon 890M surpasses the Phoenix iGPU and competes well against Intel's Meteor Lake, particularly in gaming scenarios like Cyberpunk 2077. While the improvements in Strix Point are incremental, they reflect AMD's commitment to enhancing its iGPU offerings, positioning it favorably in the mobile gaming market. The Strix Point architecture also marks a shift, as it now features a more advanced graphics architecture than AMD's desktop counterparts, indicating a strategic focus on integrated graphics performance.

- AMD's Radeon 890M features eight WGPs, enhancing compute performance.

- The iGPU supports LPDDR5-7500 memory, achieving 120 GB/s bandwidth.

- Strix Point outperforms its predecessor and competes well against Intel's Meteor Lake.

- Incremental improvements reflect AMD's focus on integrated graphics for mobile gaming.

- Strix Point has a newer architecture than AMD's desktop GPUs, indicating a strategic shift.

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By @Luker88 - 8 months
I basically only buy AMD, but I want to point out how rocm still doesn't fully support the 780M.

I have a laptop with a 680M and a mini pc with a 780M both beefy enough to play around with small LLM. You basically have to force the gpu detection to an older version, and I get tons of gpu resets on both.

AMD your hardware is good please give the software more love.

By @rishav_sharan - 8 months
I love how well Intel's Arc iGPU and AMDs Strix Point iGPU are doing. I am planning to get an iGPU laptop with 64 Gb RAM. I plan on using local llms and image generators and hopefully with that large of shared RAM that shouldn't be too much of a problem. But I am worried that all LLM tools today are pretty much NVidia specific, and I wouldn't be able to get my local setup going.
By @bornfreddy - 8 months
Interesting:

> With Strix Point, AMD’s mobile iGPU has a newer graphics architecture than its desktop counterparts. It’s an unprecedented situation, but not a surprising one. Since the DX11 era, AMD has never been able to take and hold the top spot in the discrete GPU market. Nvidia has been building giant chips where cost is no object for a long time, and they’re good at it. Perhaps AMD sees lower power gaming as a market segment where they can really excel. Strix Point seems to be a reflection of that.

Did AMD figure out that this market segment is underserved by NVidia? If so, good for them, laptops could use better GPUs.

By @torrance - 8 months
These results are promising and hopefully carry over to the upcoming Strix Halo which I’m eagerly awaiting. With a rumoured 40 compute cores and performance on par with a low power (<95W) mobile RTX4070, it would make an exciting small form gaming box.
By @aurareturn - 8 months
Some comparisons:

4k Aztec High GFX

* AMD 890M: 39.1fps

* M3: 51.8fps

3DMark Wild Life Extreme

* AMD 890M: 7623

* M3: 8286

Power:

* AMD 890M: 46w

* M3: 8286: 17w

M3 about ~253% more efficient.

But of course, if your goal is gaming, AMD's GPU will still be better because of Vulkan, DirectX, and Windows support. In pure architecture, AMD is quite a bit behind Apple.

By @mastax - 8 months
How fortunate for Intel that as soon as they ruin their CPU naming scheme, AMD follow suit.
By @setgree - 8 months
So what was AMD thinking with its release of the 8700G and 8600G APUs, and is it planning to phase them out?

They come with the 780M and 680M processors, respectively, and both are outperformed by the 980M at a lower power draw [0]. Theoretically a consumer can't put these parts directly in a pc there's already a mini-pc with the laptop part 980M [1]. The 7800G sometimes shows up in mid-range and high-end gaming PCs with discrete graphics cards [2], which makes so little sense that I wonder if AMD quietly offloaded them in bulk at a steep discount to vendors.

I've commented on this before [3], can anyone shed light on the situation?

[0] https://www.anandtech.com/show/21485/the-amd-ryzen-ai-hx-370...

[1] https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/mini-pcs/soyos-upcomin...

[2] https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/gaming-pcs/hp-omen-35l...

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41140287

By @Shorel - 8 months
Similar performance to Nvidia 1080 dedicated GPU.

Would I get it? Absolutely yes. A full desktop small form factor is a very convenient, nice thing.