ReMarkable launch Paper Pro, a colour e-ink tablet

I love my remarkable 2. Bought it before "Connect" was a thing, so I don't have a subscription. But I cannot recommend it to anyone. There are better alternatives out there and MyDeepGuide (youtube) has reviewed them all better than I ever could.

The software is moving too slowly and often in a wrong direction. Especially since they released the keyboard folio most updates were around typing (which is supar on any eink device)... and they generally made my experience as a pen user worse.

I don't care if the new hardware is awesome, whenever mine breaks I will switch to a competitor.

EDIT: the reviewer I mention is excited about the device https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkEg8WLeW4Q

There aren't many companies for whom I have love like Remarkable. All I've ever wanted is hardware that isn't needlessly closed or locked down, that is hacker friendly. Remarkable mostly delivered that.

But it feels like they've been increasingly moving away from that, especially where the openness now competes with their cloud subscription.

Given the amount of love the open source community has shown Remarkable, I think they could let the community build some amazing software for them. This would be doubly beneficial because the software is the weak point currently for the Remarkable. If they were to open source the existing software, even with a CLA copyright assignment, I bet there'd be a huge influx of people contributing.

I hope with this new Paper Pro that they are moving in the direction of openness/hackability and not more closed like they did with the Remarkable 2. Would love to hear from people who have tried the Paper Pro about how that is.

Side note: If you haven't gotten the RCU utility application, you definitely should! It's a great tool[1]

[1]: https://www.davisr.me/projects/rcu/

So according to the "deep guide" video review, this uses E Ink's "Gallery 3" e-paper screen. Which, unlike conventional displays, doesn't use additive subpixel color mixing.

Instead it uses subtractive color mixing inside each pixel: It layers transparent cyan, magenta and yellow, and opaque white pigments, over each other. Which creates cyan, magenta, yellow and white as primary colors, and red, green, blue and black as secondary colors. Other shades are then created via dithering those eight base colors. So it works very similar to an inkjet printer.

Since it doesn't use subpixels, the screen seems to have a similar brightness to greyscale E Ink displays, which is reasonably close to printed paper. However, the color saturation is clearly still not quite on the level of actual printed paper.

Here is a comparison shot between Gallery 3 and Kaleido 3 (the latter uses conventional subpixels to create colors): https://assets.goodereader.com/blog/uploads/images/2023/03/2...

And of course the reaction times are not as fast as LCD/OLED. As is well known, E Ink uses electrophoresis e-paper screens, where solid electrically charged pigments are moved around in a liquid, which is a slow process. It also still requires a "deghosting" refresh once the screen changes, but interestingly those refreshs are now only applied to the parts of the screen which actually have changed pixel values, which looks significantly less distracting in my opinion.

I had a reMarkable 2 and gave up it almost solely because it didn't support USB mass storage (like Kobo devices do), making it really annoying to transfer files. Also, their software update made the reader worse, since I went from being able to manually crop the page to fit the viewport to having to carefully pinch-zoom with a bunch of latency and really weird sensitivity. And they seem oddly insistent they're not a reading device anyways; if they supported ePub 3 (particularly ePub 3 fixed layout - again, Kobo supports this) that would have made it a nice comics machine, but no. (And their weird web interface choked if you tried to transfer "large" books.)

100K JPY too, which is in the range of an iPad Air. I hope some of these software issues get ironed out and maybe I'll consider it again...

I love my Remarkable, it forces me to stay in creativity mode without jumping to the internet since it doesn't have a browser. That being said, the inability to simply put your own templates in the machine and have them persist through and update is so close to being a showstopper for me that I am not sure I would consider buying a new one. The RM2 template manager is great, but you have to update your templates after every firmware update and I hate that with a passion!

I had an iPad Air, which I changed for a reMarkable 2 and I couldn't be happier! I see a lot of people here commenting about the limitations of it, and I get it. For me personally those limitations are features.

My needs are mostly note taking and reading technical PDFs, and for that the reMarkable is fantastic. I used it extensively while taking Calculus, which, it was great to use as many pages as I needed and to write as big as I wanted without worrying about "wasting" paper.

I miss background light from time to time, which I think is a great addition.

I'm not super familiar with alternatives so I can't say that is better than X or Y, but I personally have been moving as much as I can to single purpose electronic devices. That allows me to be more focus and not fight my device wanting to distract me. That takes out every eInk table that has android for me, I don't want a yet another multipurpose device that I need to develop discipline to use it!

On that line, I love my kindle, but that spends about 90% of the time in airplane mode, because, again, the kindle is for readin, the reMarkable for taking notes and reading Datasheets and such...

But, that's just me :-)

My RM2 is sitting in a drawer. I really wanted to like it and build it into my daily workflow, but the software never made me feel I was being productive. Scrolling through notes is incredibly slow, so any attempt to reference a past note was just met with frustration and yearning for a paper notebook.

Reminds me of my old livescribe pen i had as an undergrad. It was a ballpoint-pen with a little computer inside and a camera pointing down the tip of the pen. You'd use it with special notebooks that had very small dot-patterns printed on the paper, and the computer could decode that to get its position on the page. Then you'd plug it into your PC's USB port to upload a digital copy of your notes. There was surprisingly-good OCR to make it searchable and also the pen had a microphone that recorded what your professor was saying during any given penstroke. And that's in addition to having the physical notebook the ballpoint pen wrote on.

Looks like they still exist but they haven't done much in the last 15 years. They used to make these high-quality leather-bound notebooks but now it seems they only have cheap spiral-bound ones. Worse, the pen still costs about $200 so it's not in anyway competitive with remarkable.

I'm contemplating going to grad school and I might try to dig up my old livescribe pen if I can find it (I think I saw it a year or two ago in some box of assorted odds and ends) but the lack of high-quality journals is a disappointment and if I can't find my old livescribe pen I'd rather try out remarkable than spend 10x as much on a nearly-dead product that had far more potential but seems to be on life-support.

Wish livescribe would at least open-source their software if they no longer care about it.

looks great and, at the same time, it seems they didn't address the single biggest problem I (and many, many, many other people) reported over the years :-( I even wrote about it here on HN in 2021 and nothing has really changed on that front.

I have a Remarkable 2 and the device is great, software is improving as well and taking notes is a joy BUT finding those notes later on is next to impossible.

OCR is very bad and basically makes indexing and full-text searching impossible (and off device)

And no, "labels" do not address this problem.

Would be interesting to hear from someone who has compared this and https://daylightcomputer.com/

How much does the "Connect Subscription" cost?

How well does the machine work w/o it?

When will someone else make a device with this display? (I'm looking at you Amazon)

Could we get this display in a larger size on a general-purpose tablet w/ stylus? (I still haven't found a replacement for my Fujitsu Stylistic ST-4110 and its daylight viewable transflective display)

A smaller size for a cell phone? (with a stylus please)

How about a dual-screen device like to the Lenovo Yogabook which had an e-ink display for the lower half which would toggle between keyboard and other uses?

The things I don't like about my rm2 are:

- how fast the nibs wear out

- how inaccurate the screen is

- the screen update rate

- infinite pages

It sounds like they might have fixed the nibs. The rest of it is up in the air. I think infinite pages might be workable if the update rate is better, but it's also got bad ergonomics. It's far too easy to accidentally trigger a scroll. It was bad enough when all you could do was accidentally zoom, but the infinite pages update really messed with it.

My wife has reMarkable 2, pre-ordered it before the release. If you are writing a lot or working on a text file to take notes etc. it's a great product. If you're connecting a keyboard to an e-ink device, you're doing something wrong. That's my take after seeing her using it for the last few years.

I also agree with other comments here regarding the software being too slow to develop and some dark patterns (such as subscription stuff for the new users). Feels more and more like the makes are not sure what to do and trying to shoot in every direction sometimes. You have a very good product, just make it great and that's it.

Pro tip (no pun intended): get a Lamy al-star emr pen for a better writing experience, if you are not comfortable with the default pen being too thin.

My first-gen Remarkable is still working fine although the software and display speed feel painfully slow these days. I even have a free "for life" Connect plan because I was an early customer...and it does work well for the most part like you would expect any cloud syncing service to do.

But I am interested in replacing it with something newer...and while years ago I was pining for color e-ink - I am not so sure it's something I need/want any more.

After seeing how fast the Daylight Computer^1 display is (60fps), and the fact that it supports a massive variety of apps because it runs Android, I think that's the route I want to go to replace my Remarkable...

[^1]: https://daylightcomputer.com

I considered getting a ReMarkable a couple of years ago. My primary needs were note taking and PDF reading for studies. The ReMarkable's low powered hardware and limited app ecosystem put me off. Also, I didn't want multiple devices i.e. a tablet and a seperate note taking device.

So, I settled on getting a Samsung Tablet with a S-Pen and using the "Flexcil Notes & PDF Reader" app. The tablet was not cheaper than ReMarkable but I had access to all the apps in the Android ecosystem. The note taking app was not free and its premium features make it cost between £4.59 - £10.49 if billed through Google Play store. The app was well worth it and you can search for reviews of it on Youtube.

If you are planning on getting a ReMarkable for studying, I'd suggest to instead consider using an iPad or Android tablet with pen support instead.

- https://www.flexcil.com/ - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flexcil.fl... - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/flexcil-note-good-pdf-reader/i... - https://www.youtube.com/@flexcil5010/videos

I previously wrote about how difficult it was to return and get a refund on a Remarkable 2. It was hell. I would highly recommend avoiding them like the freaking plague if you're at all on the fence, because it's a hellacious process to return one.

I also assume that if you were to ever need to use the warranty for any purpose that requires returning the product it's going to be the same thing and also awful.

Buyer beware.

Looks neat, but not being able to do something as simple as backup and sync without a monthly subscription makes this whole ecosystem a no go for me. Especially for a device that already costs $600-800.

What does the ReMarkable really excel at? You can make notes, but the software is not that great from what I've seen. It doesn't have end-to-end encryption so I wouldn't use it for anything important. You can read PDFs but typing notes is much faster on a desktop/laptop, and for nontechnical books a kindle is much better form factor. You can use it to draw, but e-ink is inferior to a wacom tablet or iPad pro. e-ink is great in bright environments, but in most places where people work that's just not an issue. And who is going to use their ReMarkable at the beach?

It's a cool product but I don't get it. I don't get who needs this.

When I first bought it, my Remarkable 2 was one of the very few pieces of technology (hardware or software) that I didn't actively dislike.

Then they started releasing software updates that made the UI slower, moved around the buttons in said UI, made it easy to accidentally select the wrong widgets (e.g. because two widgets are in the same part of the screen and so a double-tap combined with the high refresh latency causes a misinput), made notebook/page loading much slower (which, to their credit, they have fixed), and started adding lots of typing-related features that I don't use or need.

The device is still good, but I still find myself getting annoyed at it in a way that I didn't when it was new - although for me that's my experience with virtually all technology.

I wish there was a tablet with similar ergonomics that allowed me to tinker with the guts. I want to be able to write Python or C against a simple API and immediately run my code - I don't want to have to write an Android application, which I think is necessary for the BOOXen? I just want to easily write code that processes my pen strokes in real time.

I use the Fujitsu Quaderno A4 as my daily reader and notetaker (PDFs only).. it is absolutely fantastic. Simple but extremely thoughtful design. Extraordinarily light, durable, long battery. "It just works".

I love to write, actually I think I have to write as it’s the only way I’ve figured out on how to put guardrails on my thoughts.

I got my first remarkable a few years ago and I was super excited, I thought it could be the bridge between my need to write and the digital world.

I gave up, I also tried an iPad too but again I gave up.

I ended up using a cheap fountain pen and the paper that I like its texture.

I think the problem with all these devices is that from a product perspective they focus on the wrong things.

I don’t care about colors and syncing with the cloud or whatever else.

I care about emulating an as close as possible experience to natural writing and that means latency of the device and the tactile feeling I get when I touch the screen with the pen are the most important aspects.

I haven’t seen much there happening and maybe these are just too hard problems to solve.

Or maybe I’m just a member of a too niche group of people.

But until I find a digital writing instrument that gives me the sensory feedback of a pen an a paper I don’t see me going back to these devices.

I've been a remarkable user for several years and have spent hundreds of hours I'm sure in front of the RM1 and RM2.

I love the increased storage (8GB goes fast with a bunch of scanned PDFs) and the addition of color (so long as it's as readable in sunlight).

However I'm stuck on the old 2.x fw versions because I don't like the infinite page thing they added, so I won't be upgrading. Also it'd be cool if they offered proper support for self-hosting rather than forcing us to use tools like rmfakecloud (which is great btw).

I used to advocate for remarkable. I have one. I got multiple as gifts for people. Now I am a hater. The rug pull that took a $700 one-time-payment device and gated all the features behind a mandatory subscription was a dick move. Please don’t support this company.

It appears RM's out of fashion now. But mine does exactly what it promised to do: let me write and sometimes highlight PDFs.

The latter got better after persistent zoom - you zoom the PDF once for the margins and it remembers it for ongoing pages.

I got grandfathered into the connect service, it's also $36/yr, so not a huge deal? I transfer using the app. The app also lets you screenshare your drawing live, so I use it to draw during video conferences. That's been useful a few times.

It didn't promise to be a full-on tablet, and its value prop is in not being one. I prefer that it doesn't run a full mobile OS with other apps. That's against the damned point. I just want something to replace the paper stack I usually have near my laptop.

Just for everyone's reference, there is a rich community of third-party packages [0] ("apps") and launchers for rM and rM2, so it's possible to add on any number of sync (syncthing), encryption (gocrpytfs), epub (koreader), web browsing (netsurf), vnc (vnsee), wacom driver and more. The user get's root shell access from the beginning, and you can automate all sorts of things using systemd and standard shell utilities.

The out-of-the-box software may be a bit barebones for some power users, but you can certainly add-on the functionality that you desire.

[0]: https://toltec-dev.org/testing/

Every time I see this device pop up, I really struggle to find out what exactly this has over something like an iPad with an Apple Pencil?

With this one being $579 including the basic marker. The iPad Air with an 11" screen with the cheaper pencil is $678. iPad with an 11" screen and the cheaper pencil is $428.

If it is the screen feel, how does that compare to the paperlike screen protectors for iPad?

Some say a lack of distractions, but you can turn on do not disturb?

I am just really curious what this solves vs other tablets that I am missing here, especially at this price point. Or is there something I am really missing here?

Feels ridiculous that we've had Kindles since 2007 but we've still got no A4-sized Colour E-Ink Tablet in 2024.

This video shows an interactive demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uyh6KSYVJ4

I'm particularly interested in refresh latency and color gamut. You can get a feel for these here.

I chose Supernote because the battery is replaceable. Like a real notebook, I don't care about accessing the internet. I care about reading, writing, cloud storage, and product life-time. If I wanted to access the internet, I'd just use a real computer.

Love the hardware hate the software. I’m a heavy user, but won’t buy another device from them, unfortunately. Debugging sync issues has been very difficult for me and it’s hard to just reset the device because it’s hard to export annotated files.

I noticed when reading through user reviews for the remarkable 2 that I can find several that are pretty critical of the product, but the rating of the reviewer is apparently 5 stars. https://remarkable.com/store/remarkable-2#user-reviews

It has 229 pixels per inch based on the E in Gallery 3 display. On E ink’s site, the Gallery 3 product specs says support is up to 300 ppi. Remarkable should’ve gone with the higher resolution.

This uses the E Ink Gallery 3 display, of which you can find many reviews online.

Well... While I admire reMarkable in technical terms, I'll not buy a black box where I have to hack the box just to manage my system. I do not care much about handwriting recognition and other "cool solution to help the end user", I do care about no eye strain reading of LONG damn documents, where scrolling distract instead of help, and casual ability to draw things. Period.

Unfortunately they took a classic commercial path, maybe fueled by many "users desires" described by users who have not much an idea about how they can use such devices and the result is well... Not exiting especially for the price. I have no issue paying something I own, I do not pay for something I can only use.

For me the killer anti-feature of reMarkable devices is the limited storage. I have way more than 64 GB of ebooks and PDFs (lots of full-color tabletop game books), so anything that has both such limited storage and no SD card slot is off my radar.

I figure I'll drop this here just in case. I don't really use my RM2 since keeping it in my backpack caused the cover to start getting destroyed.

I wrote this as a "is this possible" type program. It ssh's into the tablet and then emulates a stylus through the windows api. Worked with things like blender and krita. Can't say I'm likely to update it again, but it at least worked last I tested it. Also note it doesn't install anything on the device it only reads out the device file for the pen.

https://github.com/ookami125/Remarkable-Stylus

Is this suitable for reading technical pdf textbooks (math, programming, etc)? Last I checked the screen size was smaller than A4 and ReMarkable had a focus on writing and taking notes rather than displaying books...

So any suggestions here?

I'm in the market for something like this, but for sheet music. Something where I can upload PDF copies of music to a reader, annotate them with the stylus, and easily page through the music as part of a performance. I sing choir, so weight is a factor. My Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra is just a tad too heavy.

I read lots of discussions on comparable devices on this post, can anyone recommend something suitable for music?

On android I use MobileSheets which does everything I need.

I ordered mine and am very excited for it.

I use it everyday at work (handwritten notes and reviewing short PDFs like resumes and white papers). It’s one of the biggest professional ROI investments that I’ve ever made.

The people who hate the Remarkable seem to be either zealots for openness or people who want to read ebooks on it or people who hate subscriptions. Those 3 things don’t matter to me at all so I’ve been extremely happy.

Will I be able to use it without creating an account with the company?

Will I be able to use it if the company fails?

Will I be able to install third party firmware and software?

A highly interesting release. I love my remarkable2 as a note-taking device. I also own a Kindle and an iPad, so reading books or running apps isn't my requirement. I only need something to take notes and that the remarkable does very well. Funny though, that color wasn't the most missing feature. But it is very intriguing that it seems to have the first full-resolution color displays, with the color being part of the eInk pixels. From a practical side, the additional screen space probably is the biggest feature to me. I would hope for some more software improvements, like a few more drawing tools, especially as the colors make that even more appealing. Also, I would like to have an image slide show and of course an official option to customize the sleeping/off display images.

I have a remarkable 2 that never gets used any more. All I wanted was to be able to natively highlight PDFs and ePUB books, so that I could write some code to export those highlights for myself. I gave up waiting for that and I doubt it will ever be a reality. Such a shame and such a waste.

If you have an iPad already you can get screen covers that give your screen a paper feel. Elecom sells them

Can it be used completely offline, without an account, etc?

I've both bought and sold my ReMarkable 2.

I bought it before they added a subscription, so I was spared the pain.

For me personally, it was too expensive to be able to just use the device and not worry about damaging it, I even stopped wearing a watch, because I worried that it might scratch the display.

I don't have that worry with a notebook, but then again, notebook is physically limited especially when compared to digital tablets.

I do enjoy writing, so after I sold my unit, I went back to pen and paper, but I do still love the tech so I keep an eye on it!

Usually colour E-ink is slower than monochrome, I wonder what the product will actually look like and function, when it launches.

I have a reMarkable 2 that I use pretty regularly. I have had the same pin nib breakage other folks have had, but ate the $130 to replace my pen. Since that, I haven't had any issues. It's generally a great device that I enjoy using, although I don't use it while I'm at home because I have my custom mechanical keyboard and can type much faster than I write in Standard Notes in Markdown. Every time I take a trip though, I take my rM2 with me, and it's my primary on-the-go notetaking tool and I take a /lot/ of notes.

I did a bit of research and decided to go ahead and jump on the Paper Pro. I hope it's worth it, because it's quite a bit more expensive than the rM2 was.

Whenever I start looking into a device like this, I'm reminded how much progress has been held back by the grip Amazon has on the book world. Building on shared book annotations would be a great way to develop intelligence, but it can only be on the down-low.

This looks pretty interesting and definitely something I’d like to try out for reading - but, on a different note, I’ve been using ChatGPT to scan in my handwritten notes and have been very impressed with the results. So much so that I’m increasingly less interested in a clunky expensive device that isn’t always accurate, and more interested in a way to efficiently scan in and organize paper notes. I haven’t tried the Remarkable but in my experience there is nothing quite like a well-designed pen and high-quality paper that when you really want to write stuff down and think on paper.

It makes me wonder if an alternative route to this type of tech is to integrate OCR more into a device.

Does anyone with a ReMarkable have any experience with hacking on it? Can you write software for it, or are you pretty much stuck with what they offer out of the box?

And if you can't write software for it, any recommendations for a hackable e-ink tablet?

They have been pretty hostile toward the community lately having trademark / copyright watchdogs takedown all sorts of community resources in figma, etsy, etc.

I wont be giving them any more of my money.

As much as I like the concept, and would love to have a use, I don't see how I'd apply that to my life.

Writing documents is likely impractical (ocr seems bad, and I doubt it'd like my handwriting in particular). Reviewing them maybe, but it doesn't plug to the online tools we use at work, and then comments are only for yourself. Maybe when reading a paper and underlining a few things? Which is the odd case

I switch to paper for strides of time, which I don't see a point in replacing by a device that needs a charge and costs 1000cad

Oh - did they remove SSH access? With a RM2 you could go to Settings > General > About > Copyrights and licenses and you were shown an IP address and the root password for SSH..

No they didn't - you just have to activate "Developer mode" (forcing a factory reset, so don't set up too much, you'll have to repeat it all..)

Not that trash Kaleido faux-color e-ink, very nice.

This may be the first legitimate color e-ink tablet with good (EMR; see: S-Pen, Wacom, old style Thinkpad) pen input.

Will it be ssh-accessible like the other Remarkables? It's a really cool device, and costs (in EU) less than the DC1.

I own a kindle, but I find it’s often just easier and better to use my iPad Pro and the upside of having a fully functional device outweighs the fancy display tech. I think it’s important to consider if eink so great that it justifies such an expensive device over a more conventional tablet.

Although, I do kind of want one.

I want to challenge the idea that drawing/writing on what feels like paper is subpar compared to a surface that have the pencil glide a bit more.

I always thought writing on paper is something we have to deal with because paper is.. well, the physical medium we always used because it is cheap to manufacture.

I bought the rM1 but using it for notes was pretty poor experience :/ Writing was AMAZING. Reading back my notes on other pages was awful. I just want to quickly flip between pages. Apparently the rM2 was no better. I don't expect this to have significantly improved the refresh rate

This looks insteresting to me.

I did look at getting a RM2, but for the same price I could get a iPad with a pencil. Granted the pencil wasn't that great, but the software on the iPad is.

I have good notes on the iPad which is great for "journaling" and it almost works like the microsoft courier concept

Does it have a handwriting recognition capable of converting math formulas to LaTeX? I'm waiting for this since ages. We are supposed to be close to AGI, but we still have no good handwriting recognition on any device.

I don't get why the Canadian price is CA$929 when the US price is $579.

That's an "exchange rate" of 1 USD = 1.6045 CAD. That is a far cry from the actual exchange rate (which is 1 USD = ~1.35 CAD).

And ReMarkable isn't the only company selling products at rip-off pricing to Canadians.

This absolutely sucks.

Should the link be to the product page https://remarkable.com/store/remarkable-paper/pro , rather than to the overall ReMarkable home page?

How do e-ink devices work for teaching? My use case is teaching mathematics: streaming my notes to a class using a projector, and recording them. I am reasonably satisfied with a Surface tablet, apart from the lack of Linux; do you think this would be an improvement?

Love my Remarkable 2. Give us an SDK!

Launch event video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcuoqE3Qumk

Interesting approach/angle they are taking about being distraction-free. Intentionally no email, etc.

Looks nice to use to write a note, but horrible to use to store/access existing notes. The file browser should recognise the low refresh rate and use something like column view in Finder, rather than a new window when going 'into' a folder.

Just my perspective, but I returned my Remarkable 2 - I don't think I personally had a compelling use case for it.

Ultimately this thing is not going to magically make you super creative and productive. Frankly it's easier for me to be more productive by using my laptop. I prefer typing notes because I can keep up with what my brain is thinking. I prefer reading books on my computer with the Books app. If I'm trying to work something out visually I'll use my sketchbook which I have at my desk.

But this is just how I like to do things. You might be different. I really liked the Remarkable but it just didn't work into my workflow.

Anyone that has one of these - does it work with Linux? From Googling it looks like at best it works via wine, but even that is questionable with the latest version. Pretty ready to buy, but this is a pretty big turn off.

I guess it's not like my comment is important but saw my colleague really forcing himself to use his RM1 as though it was a gift. Never really understood the purpose of something that was less than 1% as capable as an iPad, even if it may feel better to write on. Sure the battery is probably great due to eInk but honestly my iPad is never out of battery or far from USB-C. I can play games on my iPad for 3hrs and only use 10% battery it's insane.

The only thing I will say is that for the iPad I'm still surprised I can't really share my screen and start drawing on a whiteboard in a Slack meeting which was my primary desire for having one. Literally be in a meeting and start sketching boxes and circles to my coworkers to explain things

Question for hn people: does e-ink vs (blue-filtered) lcd actually matter? As in, is there much indication that lcds have worse effects on eye-strain, sleep and focus, as long as you the light is mostly warm.

I'd love to use one of these at work (or a similar product) but they've been banned because they ship the data off to some other cloud somewhere so they've been deemed a security risk.

Something I always thought Apple would have done it. Instead it seems RM PP may just be good enough.

I am now wondering if we could have a reMarkable Paper Pro Mini, a pocket version I can carry around and take notes.

So crazy how divided people on HN are about this product series. If this device also supports SSH, it seems like it should be solid since you can bypass most of the other subscription features, no?

I'm still waiting for e-ink displays that actually have inky blacks.

Better URL: https://remarkable.com/store/remarkable-paper/pro

This is actually ... remarkable in that it uses color particles. From what I know most color E-Ink displays on the market today have b/w particles and a color LCD on top.

A “productivity hack” for folks who can’t afford this and already own iPad+Pencil which they primarily use indoors: switch to grayscale mode, it is awesome :)

129,800 JPY to get one to Japan, vs $749 USD in the US. So just by paying in JPY, I am paying $895.10, so $146.10 more. What gives? That's VERY expensive

I’ve got an RM2. It was super useful when I was taking some glasses and had to submit electronically. Outside that use case, I rarely have used it.

Can anyone share their experiences with the new Kobo colour devices with pen support (like the Libra Colour)?

Been itching to upgrade my beloved Libra H20.

Thanks in advance.

There’s a lot of “I wanted to like the rm2, but” which scares me from buying the pro.

Anyone have experience with their 100 days risk free program?

I need a stack of these to replace paper. The great thing about paper is that it's easy to look at several pieces simultaneously.

I did try to like e-ink tablets, but I'm afraid they just can't match an iPad or a decent Android tablet.

Really interesting ! I have the old version and I've often thought it would be much better with colors.

I wonder how long before the incoming lawsuit from Apple / other tech giant / patent troll.

X-twitter puts their x in the top right of the box. Talk about your dark patterns. I just noticed that.

I recently by remarkable 2 it is a good product. I wish I've waited a bit to get this one.

Well exactly as expected a colour e-Ink version of Remarkable and a much larger internal storage (64GB) instead of the very low 8GB non-upgradeable storage.

Given it now has Colour e-ink as I said before [0], I will buy one right now.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24295884

Wish I could also use this as external MacBook usb-c monitor so I can code during the day.

We've reached "peak something" with this much collective energy spent contemplating an expensive and complicated "solution" to a problem that is solved pretty simply and cheaply by a good spiral bound notebook and a nice pen.

I love this marketing soundbite too:

> “reMarkable gives me the deep focus required to work on complex problems.”

Mmmm. Yeah. I usually have to find a quiet place and eliminate distractions to get deep focus, but nice to know I can just carry this new device around with me and never lose deep focus!

I cannot support a piece of hardware that is purposely soft crippled in order to push you into a subscription.

Think you can plug this into your PC to drag and drop files like external storage? Nope.

It’s $1250 with a pencil and keyboard in Canada

That pricing is just insane

can you use it like an ssh thin client? also, yet to see an example of seeing proper coloured pdf on the new display.

Does this one also have the too-dark screen?

can I read mangas with this?

The website is using a scammy cookie consent modal. Why are respectable companies ok with that?

> The future of paper is here

Off-topic: If the future is less paper, then should we dig more holes in the earth's surface to make digital papers. I mean the alternative is just replanting.

It’s disappointing there is no Kindle app, unlike the Supernote and some others. And yet on the Supernote, it’s disappointing there’s no night light.

Please, Remarkable, find a way.

I'm done with ReMarkable, the company. I have the original reMarkable and was enthusiastic at first, but it's been downhill since.

It's clear the company is now run mostly by marketing and business people. At some point they didn't do any software development at all, and soon after they actually removed features. None of the original hacker spirit has remained.

Most of your money is going to marketing. The device and software are insanely overpriced, and I see their ads everywhere.

Never buying any of their devices again.

Loving the dark pattern that it "starts at $579" and then the 'buy now' page tries to default you to adding on additional options that bump that up to over $700...

lack of USB-C thunderbolt to screen sharing while battery charging is a deal killer for me

why get a remarkable, and get screwed by the company, when you can get a much cheaper boox go 10.3? it runs android and you can do what you like with it

In order to replace paper, devices have to compete with paper. I keep paper and pen in every room in my house. I am not going to buy a $600 device for every room in my house. A device had better be very reliable and make offloading easy also.