September 11th, 2024

Facebook uses Australian adults public photos/posts to train AI, without opt-out

Facebook scrapes public data from Australian adult users for AI training without an opt-out option, unlike EU users. The Australian government plans to reform the outdated Privacy Act amid online safety concerns.

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Facebook uses Australian adults public photos/posts to train AI, without opt-out

Facebook has acknowledged that it scrapes public data from all Australian adult users, including photos and posts, to train its artificial intelligence models. Unlike users in the European Union, Australians do not have an opt-out option due to the absence of stringent privacy laws in Australia. During a senate inquiry, Meta's global privacy director, Melinda Claybaugh, confirmed that unless users have set their posts to private, their public data has been collected since 2007. While accounts of users under 18 are not scraped, public photos of minors can still be collected if their parents' accounts are public. The inquiry highlighted the disparity in privacy protections between Australia and Europe, with Australian users lacking the same rights to opt out of data collection for AI training. Claybaugh noted that the need for extensive data is crucial for developing effective AI tools. The Australian government is expected to announce reforms to the Privacy Act, which has been criticized for being outdated, particularly in light of the ongoing discussions about online safety for children.

- Facebook scrapes public data from all Australian adult users for AI training.

- No opt-out option is available for Australians, unlike users in the EU.

- Data collection has been ongoing since 2007 unless posts are set to private.

- The Australian government plans to reform the Privacy Act in response to these issues.

- Concerns about online safety for children are prompting discussions on privacy laws.

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By @kleiba - 4 months
First, I suppose "scrape" is not the correct word here, if fb is just using the photos people uploaded to their servers.

Second, what was the license agreement between users and fb at the point they uploaded their pictures? I wouldn't be surprised that this is completely legal and covered by fb's TOS...?

By @fph - 4 months
Pretty simple. If you don't make it illegal, they will do it.
By @swarnie - 4 months
Isn't that just what social media is? When you sign up and begin uploading text or files they become the exclusive property and rights to exploit for commercial purposes of the platform.

> This means, for example, that if you share a photo on Facebook, you give us permission to store, copy and share it with others (again, consistent with your settings) such as Meta Products or service providers that support those products and services. This licence will end when your content is deleted from our systems.

By @defrost - 4 months
Speaking of Australian adults, public photos, and one (of many) of HN's favourite writers:

    I am the science fiction writer Greg Egan.
    There are no photos of me on the web.
~ https://www.gregegan.net/images/GregEgan.htm

~ https://old.reddit.com/r/printSF/comments/5nr5d7/has_anyone_...

By @niemandhier - 4 months
Friends of mine use scripts to modify every foto of them to slightly move face recognition markers.

The images exist, the person on them looks very similar to them so aunts and uncles don’t mind, but the human you see is a fiction.

By @nwbort - 4 months
Presumably, the opt-out is not to make photos/posts public
By @ipsum2 - 4 months
The article does not make clear whether the photos are used to train recommendation systems (eg newsfeed, ads) or generative image models. The article makes it appear like the latter, but is most likely the former.
By @wodenokoto - 4 months
There was a similar discussion when facebook started running facial recognition on all pictures.

But is is interesting if the image generators from facebook will be able to generate pictures of non-celebrities just from their name. Although it would be fun to see what the average Joe _actually_ looks like.

By @daghamm - 4 months
So what happens if I am at a party with a trigger happy social-butterfly assuie?

Should I wear a mask at all time?

By @iamnotsure - 4 months
Oculus quest it is.