macOS Sequoia is available today

Most annoying problems so far..

1. Screen-recording permission once every week ?

2. No more sudo spctl —master-disable. Alternative way is bit complicated.

2. No more control+ click to bypass gatekeeper.

3. Why tcutil reset Accessibility not working for a specific app? It works for “All” .

4. Script to convert NSURL node ref url to posix url not working.

5. Normal usb Mouse pointer acceleration is not smooth. May be need to re tweak those again.

Anything else ? Otherwise all good.

Window tiling! If you drag a single window to the top does it maximize, and unmaximize when you drag it away? That's been my most wanted feature in macOS since forever (yes I have tried the third party ones).

I don't really care about tiling multiple windows, but I've always hated the macOS full screen behavior, and before that the old green button behavior, so an alternative that finally works well (the way Windows has for many years) would be amazing.

For the first time Apple responded to my bug report through the Feedback Assistant and requested more information, so kind of feel involved in this :)

So the bug was about the screen recording permission needed for some apps, Shottr specifically. Despite me allowing screen recording previously macOS Sequoia kept asking me to go into the settings and give the permission. According to Apple, that should have had happened once a week, so I gave a follow up feedback about definitely me not wanting to repeat this more than once. Fingers crossed I won't have to fiddle with permission when taking a screenshot.

But unfortunately it appears that they only changed the policy to do it once a month: https://a.dropoverapp.com/cloud/download/50dcbf08-a812-4ef4-...

Still better than once a week and the final UI is fine, but IMHO it should have an option to disable this behavior.

Here’s one for HN readers, you can now find jq in /usr/bin/ in Sequoia.

Best new feature: Passwords are a separate app again instead of being a shitty, illegible panel in the inexplicably-unresizable, cramped, tiny-text hell of the iOSified system prefs.

Maybe in a couple more major versions we'll have a re-re-designed system prefs app that actually looks like a desktop app again!

I updated, and my whole Elixir/JS setup works like before.

I like that they _finally_ added window snapping to the window manager, but keyboard shortcuts are still missing from what I can see.

Edit: it is possible! take a look at this Reddit post for a workaround https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dcy6l2/comment/lax9...

> And easily access and understand your home electricity use with new Electricity Usage and Rates features[14]

> 14: Eligible users include Pacific Gas and Electric Company customers who have residential electrical service, including areas served by Community Choice Aggregators. Users must be the utility account owner or authorized user of the utility account.

what an extraordinarily specific feature to put into Home.app. I guess California is a pretty big state, with a pretty big portion of their target market, but still

Thanks to the new API that comes with Sequoia, I developed a new translator app for Menu Bar that doesn’t require internet connection.

If you are interested, please have a look: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/offline-translate-translator/i...

I am usually slow to upgrade but I jumped on this and iOS 18 immediately because of "iPhone Mirroring".

I've only had it for a few minutes, but it's really nice!

I feel left out sometimes given that I'm still on Mojave. Everyone else is enjoying their new features.

But I also like running 32-bit apps and knowing where the system preferences are (because they haven't changed every year for me). So swings and roundabouts.

> With many of the Apple Intelligence models running entirely on device, as well as the introduction of Private Cloud Compute — which extends the privacy and security of Apple devices into the cloud to unlock even more intelligence — Apple Intelligence introduces an extraordinary step forward for privacy in artificial intelligence.

They've said this in every mention of Apple AI since the WWDC, but they haven't mentioned at all if you can disable the cloud calls. I'm assuming you won't be able to, but if you can, that will be a very neat guarantee to have. If that same ability comes to an iPhone, I'll be very tempted to break my 10+ year Android tenure.

Installed it on test machine. Fine. Installed it on main machine. Fine. Very boring. Can't find any issues to complain about.

Can we finally call poll(2) instead of select(2) on a pty?

https://nathancraddock.com/blog/macos-dev-tty-polling/

Apple is doing a lot of great things in systems fundamentals, but I wish they'd take some time to clean up warts in their POSIX implementation.

Looks like the new security has made it very difficult to use third-party QuickLook plugins. I'm messing with qlmanage and xattr now but so far no luck. A starting point: https://github.com/sindresorhus/quick-look-plugins

nice, but still many things to be improved:

- iphone mirroring keeps going into "paused" mode, showing a "resume" button

- iphone mirroring doesn't unblock apps that need face Id, e.g. whatsapp says "passcode required" without prompting for some form of auth (auto auth is enabled, but no luck)

- iphone mirroring is not really "mirroring": one cannot use both app and phone at the same time, and see what is going on.

- window tiling shortcut requires dragging a window first, Rectangle is much more flexible ie the window only need to be active

- UX for security got worse with "ask every month". Apple doesn't trust us knowing what we're doing, ie there should be a "trust forever" somewhere if I want to

- tagging people in Photos is still extremely buggy

- sequoia is hard to spell (when googling for info) (just me? lol)

Thank you all for beta testing Sequoia for the rest of us!

Jokes apart: I tend to wait 2-3 months at least before upgrading. There's usually a number of security fixes, and a number of bug fixes, in the first, well, 2-3 months after a new Mac OS goes live. After that, things become quite stable.

Installing it on my mid-2015 MBP thanks to Open Core Patcher!

Yearly reminder to not jump ahead directly if you care about your productivity. Just wait a few months, there is no rush to upgrade, you won’t miss anything critical by delaying a bit. macOS releases always come up with issues that are solved in minor/patch versions in the first 3-6 months.

Although I don’t use MacOS, the fact that you can now control an iPhone from a Mac will probably be reverse engineered to allow Linux to do the same at some point. A lot of automation opportunities

Apple also completely broke firewall on macos 15. /usr/libexec/ApplicationFirewall/socketfilterfw does absolutely nothing.

MBP:~ root# /usr/libexec/ApplicationFirewall/socketfilterfw --getappblocked This-App-Never-existed <... > Incoming connection to This-App-Never-existed is permitted.

Apple, if you continue release untested products we will start buying Lenovo.

I’m curious about the name. Since the move from cats to California regions, they’ve seemed to be regionally or biom grouped. We were in sierra regions for a while (10.10-10.13) then beach regions (10.13-13). 14 was Sonoma so I would’ve expect Napa, but seems we’re back to sierra mountain regions.

I wonder what goes into the product discussions over the name. Is there a rhyme or reason or is it just want sounds best to the PMs and marketers?

I feel a little disappointed as most new features announced pertain to applications shipped with the OS, rather than the OS itself. Many of these apps I do not use, as I prefer third-party alternatives. For example, I use Firefox instead of Safari, Signal instead of Messages, and 1Password instead of Passwords, Google Maps instead of Maps.

The only OS-level features mentioned are windows tiling and iPhone mirroring. As an Android user, I do not care about the latter, either.

It's been awhile since I've done a clean install, and my MacBook feels a little crusty/bloated with stuff so I think it's about time. What's the recommended process these days for a direct clean install?

If I factory reset my MacBook Pro M1 it'll go back to Ventura, then I have to manually upgrade to Sequoia.

I asked ChatGPT and it suggested I create a bootable USB drive install media for Sequoia instead (after downloading Sequoia from the app store):

`sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Sequoia.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume`

That seems a cleaner and more direct solution. Can anyone verify this works without issues? (I'll probably do this over the weekend)

Both iOS and macOS seem to have a strange number of their updates "coming later" and that is not even including Apple Intelligence which they really made the cornerstone of the updates in initial marketing. Very bizarre.

There really doesn't seem to be much here that's worthwhile? I'd love it if someone made a better macOS settings app, the current one feels like it's made to be used on an ipad or touchscreen device.

I’ve already upgraded everything in my home. All our phones, our watches, our HomePods, our laptops, and our iPads, and the AppleTv.

It’s pretty cool! Still playing with things but upgrade went smoothly and I like the customizability.

looking forward to use userspace filesystems with fskit !

Well, 1Password must be feeling pretty sour about how Apple Passwords app is a complete 1:1 clone.

They don’t do licenses, credit cards or ssh keys yet so we probably won’t switch… yet

Honestly most of the time I download these, it's just to get new wallpapers

The recent live wallpapers feature is really cool, hopefully they've added more

Most likely the second last version of macOS supporting Intel Macs.

That is what Apple is not telling you with this announcement.

15GB for some crappy generative AI. No thanks. Will stick with Monterey as long as possible. This new generative AI thing may just be the thing to make me install Asahi Linux on my computer. Hopefully it's feature-complete enough soon.

Xcode isn't working with Sequoia for me. Anyone else having this issue?

Will Apple Intelligence be available in the EU after all?

I know I'll be seen as an Apple fanbot for saying it, but holy schmoley Apple's operating system-fu just leaves Windows in the dust.

From TFA: ‘Highlights automatically surfaces directions for a location’

Is that a mistype? In an apple advertisement? Regardless, the whole thing feels like it has been written by a high school student. Try reading the following without wincing:

‘A redesigned Reader allows users to read articles more quickly with a streamlined view, a summary, and a table of contents, and a new Viewer helps users put videos front and center while still giving them full access to system playback controls.’

Aside from the traditional and expected bells and whistles, are there any major core improvements?

Is it possible to set a custom keyboard shortcut for the native window tiling commands?

Should I still expect the cursor to disappear all the time in Terminal?

OK, I will wait for like a month before update.

lol, me reading the comments still on Monterey. Seems like I'm never updating from the looks of it.

I don't think I will update to this version as I already have and utilize apps that provide said functionality.

* Sequoia is available

Proceeds to talk about new App features instead of OS ones.

Ah yes, another year of “what will Apple break in my workflow this time” tradition.

I can’t recall the last time I upgraded immediately. Maybe 2018? Been waiting for minor and patch releases of the bug ridden OS before upgrading myself (if personal device is eligible)

However, we can't guess whether the judgment is good or not, we need to collect power consumption and loading speed values to prove that the new version is indeed good or not

Please tell me they've fixed the bunk-ass Settings app

Weird how the title says, "macOS Sequoia is available today, bringing iPhone Mirroring, Apple Intelligence, and more to Mac"

Then you look at the paragraph for this and it says, "Coming Soon: Apple Intelligence"

They announced this in June, and it's just loosely coming "this fall." I have a feeling they are finding it very difficult to do anything with any kind of consistency or value on their 8gb RAM phones / Macbooks. Their models they have demonstrated so far are a relatively low parameter count with LoRA adapters for various use cases.

I have a feeling that the majority of Apple Intelligence will eventually just be farmed out to their "secure cloud" or whatever they were calling it.

A long time ago I started dreading major updates from corporate providers. They push features they want, not features I want. It got so bad with Microsoft that I fled. Apple's updates have been aggressive in resetting my preferences and pushing things like iCloud and their login to the point that they are on the Microsoft path. I am forced to use mac for work but only because of work.

iPhone Mirroring is insanely well-implemented and it's a testament to what only Apple can do. Seamless integration of their products and every just works as you expect.

It's a great time to switch to Linux.

Literally nothing I care about.

As a web developer I'd be happy if Safari usage fell off a cliff.

I recently got bored of Apple ecosystem. Was considering buying System76 for work, but thought that iPhone Mirroring feature would be really neat and decided to wait.

Turns out it’s not available in EU because yadda yadda Apple threw a fit.

Oh well.

Ubuntu is really good these days.

If you bought into the apple ecosystem with a recent Mac I’d not bother. But for those of your running a PC Ubuntu is incredible and their new App Store makes finding and installing software super easy. My workstation pc with Ubuntu is insanely faster than my Mac Studio when it comes to jetbrains IDEs. It’s so snappy I first couldn’t believe the performance diff.