September 30th, 2024

Apple No Longer in Talks to Invest in ChatGPT Maker OpenAI

Apple has withdrawn from negotiations to invest in OpenAI's $6.5 billion funding round, while still planning to integrate ChatGPT into Siri for free access on its devices.

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Apple No Longer in Talks to Invest in ChatGPT Maker OpenAI

Apple has reportedly withdrawn from negotiations to invest in OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT, as it was considering participating in a funding round expected to raise around $6.5 billion. The reasons for Apple's exit remain unclear, but it follows a month after reports indicated Apple was contemplating the investment, which could have valued OpenAI at over $100 billion. Despite Apple's withdrawal, other tech giants like Microsoft and Nvidia are still involved in the funding round. Microsoft, which has already invested $13 billion in OpenAI, is anticipated to contribute an additional $1 billion. Meanwhile, Apple is moving forward with plans to integrate ChatGPT into its Siri platform across iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia, allowing users to access ChatGPT responses directly. This integration is expected to be available for free to Apple device users without requiring an account, while ChatGPT Plus subscribers will have access to premium features. The decision to step back from investment discussions may be influenced by recent turmoil within OpenAI as it transitions to a for-profit model.

- Apple has exited talks to invest in OpenAI, which is raising $6.5 billion.

- Microsoft and Nvidia remain involved in the funding round.

- Apple's integration of ChatGPT into Siri is still planned for later this year.

- The withdrawal may be linked to internal issues at OpenAI.

- Users will access ChatGPT for free on Apple devices without needing an account.

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By @ChrisArchitect - 7 months
By @LarsDu88 - 7 months
Perhaps the elimination of the most of the original leadership team along with the board of directors was seen as a red flag.

Alternatively, Apple could just invest in Anthropic instead which seems to have had less drama and a lot of the same talent.

By @gnabgib - 7 months
Discussion (68 points, 3 days ago, 82 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41677333
By @shreezus - 7 months
Apple is well aware of Altman's intent to build consumer AI hardware (additionally, Altman is allegedly collaborating with Jony Ive on the project).
By @KaiserPro - 7 months
looking at the numbers that have been published, openai is loosing money hand over foot, has suspect leadership.

Not only that OpenAI has lots of competitors that could be hoovered up at a 90% discount once the first big AI company goes pop.

By @JKCalhoun - 7 months
Seeing that there might be downsides to support OpenAI, is there any harm in Apple sitting out "this round"? Are there not future rounds where Apple can reconsider talking with OpenAI?

Just taking a guess: the recent high-level exits from OpenAI may have contributed to Apple's backing away from talks with OpenAI.

By @datadrivenangel - 7 months
I assume OpenAI wanted too much investment, and it makes sense to just pay them as a supplier instead of as an investment.
By @airstrike - 7 months
Despite being known for making big bets on products, Apple has historically not really been big on huge M&A bets or financial investments into other companies.

Also from my experience it's the counterparty that should feel honored to be working with Apple rather than the other way around, which I suspect played a role here too.

By @butlike - 7 months
Why would I invest in a company if I had the intention to buy it? I could give you $400, and hope you use it in the way I want, or I could buy you, and apply that $400 in exactly the way I want.
By @ChrisArchitect - 7 months
By @bnchrch - 7 months
Honestly, I don't care who's involved.

But, please make Siri less of a steaming pile.

It was embarrassing a decade ago, now it's bordering absurd how a product with so much visibility and importance by a company who typically is extremely perfection orientated is so behind the competition.

By @j45 - 7 months
Does this mean it's no longer integrated into the iPhone, or can be turned on/off?
By @daghamm - 7 months
What would GPT do in consumer products anyway?

Edit images? Answer incoming calls? Make reservations? Phones have that and tons more already.

By @sub7 - 7 months
Yeah given NotebookLM and Gemini are basically on par in every way, they would be wise to just expand their search deal with the Goog and not let a new entrant come and eat their food
By @dcreater - 7 months
Good! Someone in Apple's leadership is clairvoyant
By @mise_en_place - 7 months
Even with the 50 bps rate cut, everyone is still very tight with their money. It makes sense that Apple would back out in this high rate environment.