October 10th, 2024

AMD EPYC Turin delivers better performance/power efficiency than AmpereOne

The AMD EPYC 9965 processor outperforms the AmpereOne A192-32X in high-performance computing benchmarks, benefiting from superior memory bandwidth and Zen 5 architecture, despite some variability in performance across tests.

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AMD EPYC Turin delivers better performance/power efficiency than AmpereOne

The AMD EPYC 9965 "Turin Dense" processor has demonstrated superior performance and power efficiency compared to the AmpereOne A192-32X ARM CPU in various high-performance computing (HPC) benchmarks. Despite a suboptimal configuration due to DDR5 memory throttling, the EPYC 9965 consistently outperformed the AmpereOne in most tests, benefiting from its greater memory bandwidth and the advantages of the Zen 5 architecture. The EPYC 9965 supports 12-channel DDR5-6000 memory, while the AmpereOne is limited to 8 channels with DDR5-5200 memory. Although the AmpereOne A192-32X excelled in the synthetic Coremark benchmark, the EPYC 9965's overall performance in HPC workloads, such as AMG, was significantly better. The LULESH hydrodynamics benchmark was one of the few instances where the EPYC 9965 did not lead, indicating some variability in performance across different tests. Overall, the EPYC 9965 is positioned as a strong contender in the server processor market, particularly for applications requiring high computational power and efficiency.

- AMD EPYC 9965 outperforms AmpereOne A192-32X in most HPC benchmarks.

- EPYC 9965 features 12-channel DDR5-6000 memory, enhancing its performance.

- AmpereOne A192-32X shows better results only in the Coremark benchmark.

- The performance advantage of EPYC 9965 is attributed to its Zen 5 architecture.

- The EPYC 9965's performance remains strong even under suboptimal conditions.

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By @chuankl - 4 months
There is something wrong with some of those numbers.

For example, take 7-Zip Compression 22.01. The CPU Power Consumption Monitor chart states:

AmpereOne: Average 278.72W EPYC: Average 311.64W

But the fine print under that same chart states:

AmpereOne: 6968J per run EPYC: 14439J per run

By the Joules per run numbers, AmpereOne is far more power efficient than EPYC, requiring only less than half of the energy to complete a run.

In that case, how could the average power of EPYC to be only 11.8% higher than that of AmpereOne? For this benchmark EPYC is 14.2% faster than AmpereOne, and if the average power numbers are correct, the EPYC should have slightly lower Joules per run than AmpereOne.

That is not the only anomaly. For example, the CPU Power Consumption Monitor chart for John the Ripper 2023.03.14 also does not make sense.

By @gary_0 - 5 months
EPYC Turin Dense is TSMC 3nm and AmpereOne is TSMC 5nm, so that's to be expected.

Given that most (all?) cutting-edge chips use TSMC nowadays, can you really have an apples-to-Apples comparison if the chips being compared aren't on the same process node?

Unless you're comparing price/performance, since nowadays there's no guarantee that a process shrink will get you significantly cheaper transistors (RIP, Dr. Moore).

By @kristianp - 4 months
By @qwertox - 4 months
> The AmpereOne A192-32X bottomed out at 101 Watts during the idle periods while the EPYC 9965 went as low as 19 Watts

Do these EPYCs usually go this low when idling? I ask because im considering getting one but it would idle more than 50% of the time, or would waiting for 5c make more sense?

I find 19 Watts surprisingly low. I know that the mainboard and peripherals would consume more, but my system running a 5950x, which im planning to upgrade to an EPYC, idles at around 130 Watts.

By @renewiltord - 4 months
Out of curiosity, why are the Ampere processors cloud-only? I can fit an Epyc based machine easily and have an integrator ship me something.

But top of the line ARM machines are really hard to get a hold of. We need an OpenAI for ARM ;)

By @snvzz - 5 months
ARM sure isn't the future.

RISC-V is.