October 16th, 2024

Hell Freezes over as AMD and Intel Come Together for x86 – ServeTheHome

Intel and AMD have established an x86 advisory board to unify the x86 instruction set architecture, enhancing compatibility and accelerating development, while responding to competition from ARM and RISC-V.

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Hell Freezes over as AMD and Intel Come Together for x86 – ServeTheHome

Intel and AMD have announced a significant collaboration at the OCP Summit 2024, forming a new x86 advisory board aimed at unifying the x86 instruction set architecture (ISA) between the two companies. This initiative seeks to enhance compatibility and accelerate the development of the x86 ecosystem, allowing for a more consistent and predictable experience for customers across various sectors, including data centers and cloud computing. The advisory group will gather input from industry leaders and the broader x86 community to standardize architectural guidelines and improve integration of new capabilities into software and applications. While both companies will continue to compete vigorously, this collaboration is seen as a strategic response to the growing competition from ARM and RISC-V architectures. The advisory board includes notable members such as Google, Microsoft, and Oracle, indicating a broad industry interest in fostering a unified x86 platform. This partnership marks a notable shift in the x86 landscape, potentially simplifying tasks like virtual machine migrations and code optimizations, while still allowing for innovation in CPU design.

- Intel and AMD have formed an x86 advisory board to unify the x86 ISA.

- The collaboration aims to enhance compatibility and accelerate market readiness for x86 products.

- Industry leaders, including Google and Microsoft, are involved in the advisory group.

- The partnership is a strategic response to competition from ARM and RISC-V architectures.

- This initiative could simplify virtual machine migrations and code optimizations.

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By @ChrisArchitect - 4 months
By @bhouston - 4 months
This is mostly a recognition of the shared threat that ARM poses to both AMD and Intel.

ARM took embedded first, then mobile, then gaming (on mobile and handhelds), then Macs, and now it is making real inroads into Windows laptops (e.g. Snapdragon X Elite) and servers (e.g. Graviton.)

The next shoe to drop would be a high-end gaming PC that can take an NVIDIA or AMD graphics card powered by a Snapdragon X Elite-like ARM chip.

Another shoe to drop would be a super-computer powered by ARM chips instead of x86. I don't think that has happened yet?

After that, the last refuge of x86 is in legacy software that hasn't been natively ported to ARM. But there will be fewer and fewer cases of this as the years go by. For now I think it will be mostly games.

x86 is under serious threat.

By @rob74 - 4 months
To me it looks like the two finally decided to cooperate because it's in their common interest to stop (or rather, delay) the x86 architecture's slide into irrelevance?
By @vegadw - 4 months
I hope this means better ISA & extension consistency going forward and a push to make tools to adopt the extensions too. One of the bigger issues for x86-64 as an ISA is that nobody wants to compile to support features that not everyone will have, but picking what to use at run-time isn't easy either, so it makes everything slower than it needs to be.
By @MrHamburger - 4 months
To disrupt any kind of x86 dominance ARM Motherboard manufacturers will first need to get their UEFI and ACPI support working first, otherwise their boards are nothing more than one-purpose toys running only a specific build of a system.
By @tapanjk - 4 months
> The initial advisory list includes Broadcom, Dell, Google, HP, Lenovo, Meta, Microsoft, Oracle, Red Hat, Linus Torvalds, and Tim Sweeny.

Two individuals along with multi-billion dollar corporations. Curious why the organizations that these individuals represent were not included instead?

By @dlojudice - 4 months
Pat Gelsinger and Lisa Su interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y32wpDhIGM

By @jbverschoor - 4 months
Intel is worth roughly it’s assets.

An Intel-AMD merger would make sense, but it’s only extension of extinction if they don’t migrate from x86

By @mikece - 4 months
Is there any chance that Intel and AMD could merge to face the threats from ARM and Nvidia?
By @fsflover - 4 months
When wil we be able to completely disable the Intel ME and AMD PSP on modern devices?
By @dielll - 4 months
Here rooting for Risc-V