October 24th, 2024

Launch HN: Skyvern (YC S23) – open-source AI agent for browser automations

Skyvern is an open-source tool that automates browser workflows using large language models, reducing manual labor. It supports various applications, features real-time tracking, and offers $5 credits for new users.

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Launch HN: Skyvern (YC S23) – open-source AI agent for browser automations

Skyvern, developed by Suchintan and Shu, is an open-source tool designed to automate browser-based workflows using large language models (LLMs). The tool aims to alleviate the challenges companies face when building browser automations, which often require extensive manual labor or coding expertise. Skyvern allows users to create goal-based prompts for agents to perform complex tasks across various websites. The platform has been utilized for diverse applications, including generating insurance quotes, job applications, and automating government permit filings. Key features of Skyvern include a real-time action display, livestreaming browser instances, integration with authentication services, and the ability to chain multiple workflows. Additionally, it can process HTML elements and remember previous interactions for future use. The cost of using Skyvern has significantly decreased, with token costs dropping by 80%. New users are offered $5 in credits to explore the tool's capabilities. The developers encourage feedback from users to enhance the platform further.

- Skyvern automates browser workflows using LLMs, reducing the need for manual labor or coding.

- The tool supports various applications, including insurance quotes and job applications.

- Key features include real-time action tracking, livestreaming, and workflow chaining.

- Token costs have decreased by 80%, making the tool more accessible.

- New users receive $5 in credits to test the platform.

AI: What people are saying
The comments on the Skyvern launch reflect a mix of excitement and skepticism about the tool's capabilities and implications.
  • Users express enthusiasm for the open-source nature and potential applications of Skyvern in automating workflows.
  • Concerns are raised about security, particularly regarding the handling of sensitive data like login credentials and credit card information.
  • Some commenters question the long-term viability of using third-party LLMs and the potential for misuse in automating interactions with websites.
  • There is a discussion about the effectiveness of Skyvern compared to existing automation tools like Playwright, particularly in terms of precision and reliability.
  • Several users share specific use cases they envision for Skyvern, indicating a strong interest in its practical applications.
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By @glorpsicle - 6 months
Congrats on the launch! I've been keeping up with you folks since you last posted (a few months ago, I believe). How does Anthropic's recent announcement of Claude's "computer use" abilities grab you? What key differentiators does Skyvern have, at this point in time ("computer use" with Claude being relatively new)?
By @sahmeepee - 6 months
Probably not the first AI wrapper around Playwright this week, and certainly not the first this month.

I think this use case of automation in a BPA sense is more compelling than using it for test automation, because the latter is much more concerned with the precision and repeatability of the process. For the BPA task, arguably you care only about the outcome and it often doesn't matter if it gets there via some crazy route.

Part of the problem for me is that your example video shows a big wodge of prompt that had to be written to make this work and then a few kb of payload data (parameters) in a plaintext, non-csv format. If the expectation is that this replaces someone just using Playwright with codegen due to that being too technical, I'm not convinced there is a huge group of people who can manage one task but not the other.

Furthermore, you are expecting them to pass over their website login credentials and apparently their credit card details too, in plain text. You had better have a very solid idea of how to handle that sensitive data to avoid serious consequences if your users' skyvern accounts are compromised.

I think the frequency of website redesigns is oversold by people producing these LLM-driven Playwright wrappers, especially when targeting old-fashioned or government sites. As an example, we have had a suite of lengthy Playwright browser automations to interact with a government site for a few years and have had to maintain them only once, when the agency's business process changed. The prompt would also have needed to change had we used Skyvern, as would the payload, because the process was different. The difference with the Playwright automation, though, is that we could use assertions to verify steps had succeeded/failed and data had been recorded correctly, so we would know the process needed updating. I can't see that option in Skyvern which would have me worrying that process changes would be overlooked and we would unknowingly start entering the wrong data or missing steps.

By @Workaccount2 - 6 months
Anyone building a start-up on 3rd party LLMs at this point has to have some big cajones. Or you need a smash-and-grab business model. Serious risk if your horizon is measured in years instead of months.

Anthropic threw their hat in this ring yesterday, and it will very likely be followed by OpenAI and Google soon. Godspeed.

By @mmaunder - 6 months
Congrats!!! And super cool that you've open sourced it under the AGPL. Sorry if this is answered in the docs but I did a brief search on the source and noticed you're not using LangChain but do plan to integrate it so it can be offered to that community. I'm curious if you wouldn't mind talking about what you did use to create the chain of thought/actions logic in Skyvern and if you had to start work today if you'd consider going the LangChain/Graph route? Thanks.
By @dboreham - 6 months
In case anyone else is confused as to what "browser automations" is : this is about making a program that drives a target web site (owned by someone else typically), in the manner of selenium or the like --- inserting key press events and mouse move/click events, to make that target web site do something. Once you know that the rest of the description makes sense.
By @sirmarksalot - 6 months
As with any of these LLM workflow automation tools, it raises a few questions about each potential use case, and the likely long-term outcomes.

1. Is this working around friction due to a lack of interoperability between tools? For example, is this something that would be more efficient if the owner of the website exposed a REST service? Will the existence of this tool disincentivize companies from exposing services when it makes sense?

2. If there is a good reason for the lack of a service endpoint, perhaps for security reasons, will your automation workflow be used to bypass those security measures? Could your tool be used by malicious actors to disable major services? Are you that malicious actor yourself? Will your tool be used by scalpers to prevent consumers from buying high-demand products?

3. If this is being used to work around deferred maintenance with internal tools and processes, will the existence of these kind of tools be used by management to justify further deferral of that maintenance? Will your tool become a critical piece of the support staff's workflow?

4. If your tool is being used in good faith to work around anti-patterns in website design, will the owner of the website be incentivized to break your workflow? Is your use case just a step in an arms race?

These are the thoughts that go through my head whenever I hear about software being laid on top of complicated processes, where instead of simplifying the underlying processes, we add another layer of complexity to sweep it under the rug. I'm sure that people will find your project useful, but I wonder what the longer-term effects will be.

By @thedays - 6 months
Is Skyvern able to scrape data from multiple websites with different structures and combine this data into structured data in one CSV or JSON file? Example: scrape interest rates offered on savings accounts from multiple bank websites and extract the name of the bank, bank logo, product name and interest rate for each account and run this saved query on a regular schedule (daily, weekly etc)?
By @DennisSFO - 6 months
Congrats on the launch. I'm curious if you had any experience running skyvern on airline websites (for example to extract award availability for miles tickets from point A to B)? It seems like airlines always change things around and have robust anti scraping measures.
By @msp26 - 6 months
Awesome, I've been working on a similar thing at a smaller scale and I think this area is very promising.

I've limited my problem scope to single page interactions / scraping which has been very reliable and useful for my company. But agentic automation does sound fun.

By @sergeyk - 6 months
Congrats! Do you have numbers on WebArena (https://webarena.dev) or VisualWebArena (https://jykoh.com/vwa)?
By @modo_ - 6 months
Congrats on the launch! This is really cool - one of the applications of LLM I find most compelling. I've seen so many back office processes that have hundreds of steps, are incredibly error prone, and traditionally couldn't be automated due to API limitations. Solutions like Skyvern are going to supercharge businesses that have had historically low margins due to the number of humans required. (Not as a replacement for a human, but as a force multiplier)
By @hannesle - 6 months
Hi, looks cool! Congratulations. Will check it out and maybe add it to https://ai-tools.directory for people looking for such solutions!
By @drewsonian - 6 months
This is great, and I can think of several business uses and some personal.

Like this: Could I use this to pull screenshots or PDFs of my grocery receipts from a major grocery chain?

By @delusional - 6 months
The plaintext version of your signup email replaces the ampersand in the url with an & XML entity. You probably don't want that.
By @jackb4040 - 6 months
> You won't be able to run Skyvern unless you enable at least one provider.

Any plans on bundling a local LLM / supporting local LLMs?

By @ganeshkrishnan - 6 months
awesome work. I had the github starred from the day I saw on Show HN but never got around to using it.

I want to use this to automate approving/declining group members for our facebook group which is approaching half million members and fb admin tools are pretty lacking

By @imp0cat - 6 months
> how can I fill out a contact-us form on hundreds of different websites?

What's the use case here exactly? Sorry for being a bit pessimistic, but this sounds like an easy way to automatically send a lot of spam.

By @BrandiATMuhkuh - 6 months
Congratulations on the launch. This is really cool. I was recently tinkering with the same idea. But based on a browser extension.

There are many back office tasks where people copy data from page 1 into a form of page 2.

By @bluerooibos - 6 months
Looks super interesting!

Unfortunately the mobile experience is pretty bad - practically unusable. I'd expect any web application made in the last decade to be mobile-first.

By @TZubiri - 6 months
Sounds good.

Question, if it's computer vision based, does that mean that it can be trivially ported to support desktop automations?

By @andychert - 6 months
Do I understand correctly that this is an open source of the GUI only, you don't show the model itself?
By @ProofHouse - 6 months
Cool but pricing is utterly insane
By @shaburn - 6 months
Would be great to have a fixed blockchain based event log, ideally encrypted.
By @infocollector - 6 months
Quick question: What does DataDog's ddtrace do in the opensource version?
By @rokhayakebe - 6 months
Can I use this to make changes to a Wordpress website if given login?
By @drippingfist - 6 months
This is very cool. Do you think I could use to do UX/UI testing?
By @tdsone3 - 6 months
Has someone run this on modal.com yet?
By @Cheesman123 - 6 months
Congrats on the launch - love the tool
By @PeterStuer - 6 months
But will Cloudflare brick it?
By @ji_zai - 6 months
Congrats!! This is super neat. I've been looking for good ways to have AI browse the internet on my behalf - the way I normally do, and give me a presentation / summary of the highlights, so that I don't have to open myself up as much to social media and the chance for doomscrolling, etc.

I'm going to be playing with this.

By @bbor - 6 months
Wait until the media gets wind of what the industries been doing this fall… a whole repo on using AI to autonomously use other people’s websites, and not a single paragraph on safety — for the websites or for us. Technically incredible ofc, and it’s a beautiful repo. I wish it didn’t make so anxious.