November 13th, 2024

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to Lead Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

President-elect Trump announced Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will lead a new "Department of Government Efficiency" to reduce bureaucracy and spending, concluding by July 4, 2026.

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Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to Lead Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

President-elect Donald Trump has announced that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will head a new "Department of Government Efficiency" in his upcoming administration. The department aims to reduce government bureaucracy, eliminate excess regulations, and cut wasteful spending. Trump emphasized that the department would provide external advice to streamline federal agencies. Musk, who has significant government contracts, and Ramaswamy, a former presidential candidate who has advocated for reducing government spending, are expected to face scrutiny regarding potential conflicts of interest. Trump previously proposed a government efficiency commission, which Musk agreed to lead if Trump returned to office. Musk stated that their efforts would "send shockwaves through the system," while Ramaswamy reiterated his campaign slogan advocating for the elimination of federal agencies. The department's work is set to conclude by July 4, 2026, coinciding with the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. Trump expressed confidence in their ability to create a more efficient government.

- Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will lead a new "Department of Government Efficiency" in Trump's administration.

- The department aims to reduce bureaucracy, eliminate regulations, and cut wasteful spending.

- Concerns have been raised about potential conflicts of interest due to Musk's government contracts.

- Ramaswamy has a history of advocating for the elimination of federal agencies.

- The department's work is expected to conclude by July 4, 2026.

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By @TheAlchemist - 5 months
"The announcement of Ramaswamy and particularly Musk, who leads companies with existing, lucrative government contracts, raises immediate questions about potential conflicts of interest"

Absolutely no conflict of interest, between this and SpaceX. You can bet that he will try to cut grants and any programs designed to boost competition in rockets & space.

By @Gomer1800 - 5 months
So I've listened to Vivek in interviews, and its clear to me at least that he

1) Doesn't like poor immigrants, considers them a net drain on national resources. 2) Believes that the profile of a desirable immigrant is Educated, English Speaking, Westernized (As far as American civics/ideals are concerned). 3) Doesn't think Americans are culturally capable of upskilling and retooling to bring back the semiconductor industry.

So given the above. What does his appointment spell for the tech industry. Do we expect an uptick in H1b-visa workers? Are we onshoring the semiconductor industry in the US?

Also primary source (interview): https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/opinion/ezra-klein-podcas...

By @nemo44x - 5 months
What I love about this is that it has a defined mission and an expiration date. Everything should have this. Instead once they accomplish their original mission their only goal is to survive and the best way to do that is to grow and manage more things unrelated to the original goal.

I’m not sure DOGE is successful but the concept of creating a program where the goal is to delete itself by accomplishing a specific mission by a specific time is great.

By @mrandish - 5 months
It's a nice idea because there's certainly a lot of inefficiency in the federal government, however I'm skeptical a separate external commission of outsiders (no matter how smart and motivated) will be able to accomplish much in the ~6 months it will exist. Senior career bureaucrats inside large federal agencies are apex grand masters of manipulation, camouflage and political hostage-taking. They'll deploy malicious compliance, weaponized policy farming and media leaks in ways so viciously devious it'll make Alien Xenomorphs look like Care Bears.
By @donsupreme - 5 months
Does Elon need to divest his business holdings to run a government agency that can directly affect his investment?
By @keb_ - 5 months
What's the difference between this and the GAO? [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Accountability_Offi...

By @WalterBright - 5 months
Javier Gerardo Milei (President of Argentina) has managed to do this simply by eliminating entire agencies.
By @more_corn - 5 months
This will simply be an opportunity to further their political aims by de-funding things they don’t like: FBI investigated trump for illegally retaining secret records. I guarantee there will be a review of their funding. EPA gets in elons way by requiring that he not poison wildlife and people. That agency will be axed or gutted or beheaded.

Starve the beast has been a republican strategy for decades. It doesn’t mean lower spending or financial prudence. It means starve the government programs you don’t like because they conflict with your ideology.

Note that trillions of dollars of spending on weapon systems is off the table. Things like the Abrams tanks the army doesn’t want or need. The trillion dollar boondoggle of the f35 1.7 trillion to upgrade nuclear weapon systems (the only purpose of which is to eliminate all human life)

This will be the biggest shit-show our country has ever seen. It’ll be an austerity program run by insane ideologues. We’ll be luck if it’s just a joke. But it’ll probably lead to a recession by July of 2025.

By @archagon - 5 months
The government is going to be brutally gutted like Twitter. Our nation’s deep institutional knowledge destroyed for no good reason. Sad.
By @fldskfjdslkfj - 5 months
As in do(d)ge Tesla cars after Musk removes all safety regulations for self driving cars?
By @LargoLasskhyfv - 5 months
R U shittn me?!

DOGE?

Of all things?

Such pork-barrels. Much wow!

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By @heraclius1729 - 5 months
If any entity needs some effort put into process streamlining and efficiency, it's the US government. But, seriously... Why, oh why, did it have to be called "DOGE"?
By @laweijfmvo - 5 months
if the focus is actually eliminating “fraud and improper payments” then i’m all for it. but i don’t expect they’ll try to or be able to accomplish anything that practical.
By @anotherevan - 5 months
I’ve already nicknames this the “Department of Government Efficiency Department” in my head.
By @Geee - 5 months
By @rpmisms - 5 months
Elon runs an efficient and innovative business off of government contracts. He is probably the right person to define what those contracts should look like.

Cost-plus is garbage.

By @theandrewbailey - 5 months
Once, I mentioned to a friend that if you were to list all US counties by average income, the two northern Virginia counties would be in the top 5. He said 'that's because the government has never had a recession.' I guess that might finally happen soon, and if it does, a lot of resentful people are going to have schadenfreude at rich bureaucrats losing their jobs.