Mark Zuckerberg: Fact-checking on Meta is too "politically biased"

> The social media mogul said Tuesday that Facebook and Instagram will shift to a community notes model

I'm curious, what are HN's opinions around community notes on X/Twitter? I find them to be pretty good (and sometimes quite funny) but I wonder what others think.

Zuckerberg has a point but not a solution.

We do need to be able to discuss divisive topics on social media, and any single organization determining truth faces an impossible challenge. We shouldn't rely on the goodwill of Meta or the government as the basis for our trust on social media.

Community notes-style systems are... similar. Instead of a single group of people, we rely on a single algorithm/system to determine truth. At a minimum, such a system NEEDS to be open source. But even if it is, I seriously doubt any one algorithm will ever give us the low-effort high-accuracy truth heuristic we desperately need.

We need better models of trust/truth that support a rich ecosystem of personalized approximations of whether to trust or believe something.

Same thing as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42621627

[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42621627

no fact-checking? how about giving a 3d party access to the facebook feed and using AI to find hate speech. https://www.psypost.org/new-machine-learning-model-finds-hat...

> “We’re going to work with President Trump to push back on governments around the world that are going after American companies and pushing to censor more,”

Nothing says American Freedom than interfering in how other governments conduct policy so you can push your own platform full of fake users and perpetual lies.

What an embarrassment. Maybe it's time said governments start just banning or outlawing these platforms if they're just going to flagrantly admit to doing what they can to bypass the law. Fuck em. As much as I hate tiktok the whole 'rules for thee but not for me' shtick is old.

Very funny response because if you were doubtful of the fact checkers a few years ago you will be called a conspiracist

Zuckerberg knows which way the winds are blowing in the US Capital and is ensuring he is aligned with them so to avoid political blowback on his company.

I suspect the changes to the fact checking / free speech will align with Trump's political whims. Thus fact checking will be gone on topics like vaccines, trans people, threats from immigrants, etc.

While the well documented political censorship at Meta affecting Palestine will remain because it does align with Trump's political whims...

- https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/meta-systemic-censorship...

- https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/may/29/m...

- https://theintercept.com/2024/10/21/instagram-israel-palesti...

No shit sherlock. Now the question is, are you going to be actually neutral or "Musk neutral" and just cater to the new guy in power?

What is political about facts?

I realize this discussion will probably go down the political rabbit hole, but I think what's more interesting is that we really have entered a world in the past 10-15 years where there is no longer a broad, societally-wide accepted definition of facts. This is a major change for humanity, one I'm not quite sure how we'll cope with.

Daniel Patrick Moynahan once famously said "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts." I'm not sure that's the case anymore.

Translation: Oh shi! Billionaires opinions don’t matter like they used to!

Fact-checking happens when one side makes shit up and rhe other side actually looks it up.

They really will do ANYTHING to save money, eh?

Fact Checker is merely a politically correct name for a Ministry of Truth, and there are as many truths as there are people with opinions. I wholeheartedly agree and support any and all movements and actions removing them; people should critically think for themselves instead of begging someone to program them.

Incidentally: A "fact" is an immutable facet of the world itself, whether we can even acknowledge it properly or not. Facts don't need checkers.