Ignore the Grifters – AI Isn't Going to Kill the Software Industry
Dustin Ewers asserts that AI will not eliminate the software industry; instead, it will enhance productivity, create more job opportunities, and necessitate continuous learning for developers in an evolving landscape.
Read original articleDustin Ewers argues that the software industry is not at risk of being eliminated by AI, despite widespread fears propagated by so-called "AI grifters." He believes that while the role of software developers will evolve, the demand for their skills will remain strong. Ewers highlights that AI tools can enhance productivity, leading to more software projects being feasible due to improved return on investment (ROI). He references Jevons Paradox, which suggests that increased efficiency in software development will lead to a greater demand for software, thus creating more job opportunities. Ewers also discusses the concept of comparative advantage, emphasizing that even if AI excels in certain tasks, humans will still be needed for oversight, testing, and maintenance. He points out that the complexity of many software systems means that AI cannot fully replace developers. Furthermore, he stresses the importance of continuous learning and adaptation for developers to thrive in an AI-enhanced environment. Ewers concludes that the future of software development is promising, provided developers embrace new tools and methodologies.
- The software industry is not threatened by AI; demand for developers will persist.
- AI tools can increase productivity, leading to more software projects and job opportunities.
- Developers will still be needed for oversight, testing, and maintenance of AI-generated code.
- Continuous learning and adaptation are essential for developers in an evolving landscape.
- The future of software development is promising with the integration of AI technologies.
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"AI tools create a significant productivity boost for developers. Different folks report different gains, but most people who try AI code generation recognize its ability to increase velocity. Many people think that means we’re going to need fewer developers, and our industry is going to slowly circle the drain.
This view is based on a misunderstanding of why people pay for software. A business creates software because they think that it will give them some sort of economic advantage. The investment needs to pay for itself with interest. There are many software projects that would help a business, but businesses aren’t going to do them because the return on investment doesn’t make sense.
When software development becomes more efficient, the ROI of any given software project increases, which unlocks more projects. [...] Cheaper software means people are going to want more of it. More software means more jobs for increasingly efficient software developers."
"While AI is powerful, it’s also computationally expensive. Unless someone decides to rewrite the laws of physics, there will always be a limit on how much artificial intelligence humanity can bring to bear."
The cost for running a prompt through the best-available model has collapsed over the past couple of years. GPT-4o is about 100x times less expensive than GPT-3 was, and massively more capable.
DeepSeek v3 and R1 are priced at a fraction of OpenAI's current prices for GPT-4 and o1 model and appear to be highly competitive with them.
I don't think we've hit the end of that trend yet - my intuition is that there's a lot more performance gains still to be had.
I don't think LLM systems will be competitive with everything that humans can do for a long time, if ever. But for the things they CAN do the cost is rapidly dropping to almost nothing.
- If we keep making AI-assistance tools that make mid- and senior-level ICs more and more efficient, where does that leave entry-level junior positions? It's already tough enough for juniors to get a foot in the door, but will it get even harder as we continue to make the established older devs more and more efficient?
- The current crop of AI-assistance tools are being tailored to meet the needs of mid- and senior-level ICs that learned programming in a pre-AI world. But incoming junior devs are "AI native" and may approach software development in a very different way.
- I would wager that there will be substantial workplace/generational divides between devs that learned programming before using AI assistance later vs "AI native" devs that had AI assistance the whole time. I have no idea what these new ways of working will be, but I'm curious to see how it plays out.
I just can't understand where people find the kind of confidence to say AI is (or is not) going to <insert your scenario here>.
The developers who are actually going to thrive are the ones who can architect complex systems and solve gnarly technical problems. That stuff is getting more valuable, not less.
But a lot of folks have built careers on pretty basic skills. They've gotten by because there just aren't many humans who can do even simple technical work. That advantage is disappearing fast.
Elevator operators never went away either. In fact, there have never been more elevator operators in human history! Not a good career choice, though. That is what these warnings, realistic or not, are actually calling attention to.
Before the industrial revolution, shoemakers would make shoes. It was a specialized skill, meaning shoes were very expensive, so most people couldn't afford them.
Then factories were invented. Now shoes could be made cheaply and quickly, by machines, so more people could afford them. This meant that far more people could be employed in the shoe industry.
But those people were no longer shoemakers. Shoemakers were wiped out overnight.
Think of how huge the shoe industry is now. There are jobs ranging from factory worker to marketing manager. But there are zero shoemakers.
AI writing software doesn't mean it's the end of the industry. Humanity will benefit greatly, just like we did from getting cheaper shoes.
But the software engineers are screwed.
I’m seeing a lot of frustration with people dealing with markdown. Even though it’s free form and not really like code at all the hashes, dashes etc throw them off
Also seeing a lot of people having a hard time expressing their desired behavior in a concrete way. It reminds me in 3rd grade when we had to write recipes and then the teacher had a classmate maliciously comply to only what was written.
Overall I think tools will improve and barriers will continue to disappear but for the time being still has big demand for people to convert abstract intention to concrete machine usable format. It’s just how those ideas are expressed get more flexible with llms
If we accept there will be increased demand for software, it's a big jump from that to concluding the efficiency of AI will be outpaced by the demand for software, specifically along the dimension of required developers.
Software isn't wheat or fuel, it can be reused and resold.
This is the key insight.
Most software today is built for the common user (individual, business, etc.).
With the cost of writing curly braces and semi-colons dropping drastically, we’ll actually see an increase in the number of programmers worldwide.
This will come at some cost; your average Wordpress agency will need to evolve or get eaten, similarly so if you primarily build CRUD apps.
As more software is written, the upper bound should also go higher. Great engineers will be greater, both in capability and compensation.
LLMs are the new compiler, and the world of software is going to get a lot more bespoke.
It's a great reminder to not only consider what wonderful things could happen in the future, but also to want them and work towards them. Clarifying a positive future like this helps others consider it, want it, and make it happen.
I understand the case being made is more of a prediction than a wish, but it's also a vision. I believe clarifying a vision makes it more likely to happen, especially when people gravitate to it.
There is plenty of negativity already. Thanks again for the positive outlook.
Big efficiency gains motivate the million small steps, planned and muddled through, that it takes to harness the new efficiencies most effectively at scale. Not just somewhere.
But in the long run (where “long” these days can be pretty short) how can generations of improving automated software developers, improving in both quality & capacity, not replace lots of software developers.
> There’s no shortage of people saying “this time it’s different”, but those people have been around for every other major technological advance and they have yet to be correct. I wouldn’t bet on the doomers.
This is not a valid argument. It is logical gibberish.
Let’s prep it for Lean: “many people have been wrong before, let’s call those people “Doomers1”. There are people who disagree with me. Let’s call those people “Doomers2”. Clearly, “Doomers1” = “Doomers2”, proof by similarity of set names. “Doomers1” have been wrong about something before, therefore “Doomers2” will certainly be wrong.
Lean crashes…
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Question: “What software development task is intrinsically human?”
Thought experiment: Could there be alien non-human programmers? Based on silicon instead of carbon, that could ever be better than us?
An argument that software developers cannot be replaced by exponentially scaling and improving learning tech, would have to involve some quite special reasoning.
It would have to tie humans to fundamental math and computing in a way that shook our understanding of all three.
I wouldn’t take it as a given.
The study I have seen was from a company selling AI developer tools whose researchers were employed by said company. Not exactly and independent and bias-free study.
Personally they don’t work for me.
It’s not AI that is going to take out jobs. It’s the capital class that will do that. That’s what is changing the industry.
I suspect this will be the year we start to hear stories of folks getting let go for not using LLM codegen.
Or, rather, is there any non-software industry left?
But what kind of economic activity actually has a fixed marginal utility, no matter how much of that activity there is? I think it's like, none at all? No matter what you're doing, there's eventually going to be diminishing returns as you do more of it. As the highest value use cases are saturated by AGI, the opportunity cost of doing something else diminishes. And comparative advantage only works because of the opportunity cost.
But are we the software workers going to see the results of our increased productivity in our paychecks or are we now on the same boat as the other proletarians that haven't seen their salaries increase in proportion to the increases on their productivities facilitated by automation since the 70s.
Are we going to enter history as the last profession to resist feudalization, the last one who gave a lower class person some chance of upward mobility only to finally be conquered by the power of the ultra-rich?
Keep in mind, there are still COBOL developers. If you want to stagnate, there's a market for that.
Do you view the next evolution of software engineering with AI as still software engineering? Or do you think it's something else that replaces software engineering. Something akin to the Ship of Theseus.
I belong to the replacement camp, but I don't think the underlying thinking differs much. Just a matter of how you look at it.
My personal take: https://github.com/paradite/ai-replace-swe
Unfortunately, this argument doesn't hold up because of "cheap" models such as Deepseek R1.
All the boring stuff, like converting data from one format to another, is a prompt away. All the annoying scripts you know how to write, but cbf, like conditionally editing files across directories, is a prompt away.
Plus, I feel secure with my AI buddy. It's like having a helpful lead who's always up to help me debug, give me a second opinion, or show me what I'm missing. I feel like I can work in any language I want, and learning new things is so much easier with an AI tutor.
When some AI can perform the work at 100X the rate of an average developer, you will run out of requirements pretty quickly. You will need 1/100th of developers to oversee the process.
But actual coders who work in companies on projects thay have to follow different styles/languages/algorithm for coding practices, ai cant conform to that , if you are working on legacy codes or refactoring you need to maintain the style and format the code already is in, ai cant give you exact, you cant say ai these is my million line, code scattered on thousand files, analyse and add these feature while maintaining sanctity of current code practice
Ai will just introduce new bugs and you will waste more time in finding and solving
AI gives productivity boost only if you are starting from scratch, it can give you core code / boilerplate to rapidly start with adding features
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