February 11th, 2025

NOAA's public weather data powers the local forecasts on your phone and TV

NOAA provides critical weather data for U.S. forecasts through a vast network of satellites and buoys. Its reliable, publicly accessible forecasts support safety and enhance climate research through collaboration.

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NOAA's public weather data powers the local forecasts on your phone and TV

NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) plays a crucial role in providing comprehensive weather data that underpins local forecasts in the U.S. This data is sourced from a vast network of satellites, airplanes, radar, and weather stations, which NOAA continuously updates to ensure accurate and timely weather predictions. The agency operates 18 satellites and over 1,300 maritime buoys, collecting essential information on atmospheric conditions and oceanic data. While private companies can utilize NOAA's data to create their own weather products, replicating NOAA's extensive network and resources would be prohibitively expensive and complex. NOAA's forecasts are publicly accessible and are vital for public safety, especially in severe weather situations. The agency's accountability to Congress ensures the reliability of its data, contrasting with private companies that may prioritize profit over public safety. Additionally, NOAA collaborates with various sectors, including academia and private industries, to enhance weather forecasting and climate research. This partnership is essential for understanding the impacts of climate change on weather patterns, which is increasingly important for accurate forecasting.

- NOAA provides essential weather data that supports local forecasts across the U.S.

- The agency operates a vast network of satellites and buoys for comprehensive data collection.

- Private companies rely on NOAA data but cannot easily replicate its extensive resources.

- NOAA's accountability to Congress ensures the reliability and accessibility of its forecasts.

- Collaboration with various sectors enhances the accuracy of weather predictions and climate research.

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By @gdubs - 2 months
NOAA is a crown jewel of the American experiment. Agencies like this don't exist to turn a profit — they are there to serve the public interest.
By @smfjaw - 2 months
NOAA is fantastic, I was alpine climbing in the very bottom of south america near El Chalten and NOAA is pretty much the only place to get a reliable forecast down there. Fantastic service.
By @GolfPopper - 2 months
I'm extremely skeptical of the entire premise of DOGE. There are vast changes being made to very large organizations, in very short timespans, with the claim that those making them know what they're doing. But the timespans in question - days to weeks at most - mean that there's no time to review anything. So those making changes do not, cannot, be making decisions based on reviews of available evidence, because they haven't given themselves time to review the evidence. Which in turn means that when they claim they do, they're either delusional or lying.

Chesterton's Fence [1] would also seem to apply here, but I mostly think it's not even getting that far. DOGE isn't doing an audit (if it was, there would be auditors, not talented young programmers) and then taking action. DOGE is executing already planned actions, while pretending to be an audit, and helping itself to a great deal of access and data along the way.

1. https://theknowledge.io/chestertons-fence-explained/

By @jmyeet - 2 months
What we're seeing here is the dismantling of necessary and useful government functions by people who have no idea about the consequences of what they're doing.

I can't wait for them to come for GPS (run by DoD). All these people want to do is replace these government functions with a worse and more expensive private alternative but hey, someone gets to rent-seek massive profits, so that's OK. It's also a lesson in how for many things, them being run by a government entity is the best alternative.

If you want to see actual waste, how about a current sitting Senator and former Florida governor who, at the time, run a company that got the largest fine in history for defrauding Medicare to the tune of $1.7 billion [1], something for which nobody faced criminal prosecution.

[1]: https://www.factcheck.org/2014/06/floridas-medicare-fraud-fl...

By @user3939382 - 2 months
I’d be ok with looking to streamline NOAA, double check budgets etc, but just disbanding it no.
By @evanjrowley - 2 months
When people talk abouth NOAA, they're usually referring to the sub-agency National Weather Service (NWS).

As someone who has had experience at NOAA, I'd like to point out that the way they manage information security seems really wasteful. All of the tools they need are present in the environment, but there has not been sufficient political will for the various sub-agencies to work together and integrate them holistically. The net effect is duplication of half-baked cyber security functions across NOAA. The line items are purchased but the sub-agencies lack the man-power to effectively implement what's possible because government processes are too much overhead. It doesn't help that their FISMA-reportable "systems" are their sub-agencies and not actual systems. The 'mangerial class' that Republicans have rallied against during the 2024 election is sucking the lifeblood out of NOAA's IT operations.

By @throw0101d - 2 months
This was all published ahead of time, and any one voting to Trump "should" have been aware this is was the plan:

> The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) should be dismantled and many of its functions eliminated, sent to other agencies, privatized, or placed under the control of states and territories.

* https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_CHA...

By @mmooss - 2 months
Cui bono?

One benefit to some is the continued assault on sources of truth: Academics, everyone even arguably left-wing, news media, science, now we lack a source of truth on weather. More generally, the idea of an apoltical, non-profit source of truth is actively denied and any example is destroyed. The CIA and FBI are other examples.

Without a source of truth, how can any public agreement or action form? All information becomes social media. Notice who controls that too: Meta, X, and also Bytedance will be beholden to the same people destroying all else.

By @2OEH8eoCRo0 - 2 months
Yep. NOAA is the source of all the weather data that all of your weather apps and TV stations use.
By @jmclnx - 2 months
Which is why NOAA needs to be left alone. But Trump and maybe the GOP wants to privatize NOAA, which would be a disaster for the US.
By @hnburnsy - 2 months
This feels like a strawman, I haven't seen any proposal to eliminate or privatize NOAA. Just checking it looks like the un-avowed Project 2025 suggested commercializing the data which seems smart to me. Why let all these billion dollar weather channels, media companies, and apps ride on NOAA's free data? Non-commercial use of the data could still remain free.