March 5th, 2025

"Big 3" science fiction magazines including Asimov's and Analog acquired

The acquisition of the "big three" genre magazines has sparked mixed reactions, while concerns about Baen Books' stability and changes in NEA grant priorities also emerge as the Hugo Awards approach.

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"Big 3" science fiction magazines including Asimov's and Analog acquired

the text you provided." This incident has sparked discussions about the integrity of authorship in speculative fiction, leading Codex to clarify its stance on AI-generated content. In other news, the recent acquisition of the "big three" genre magazines—Asimov's Science Fiction, Analog Science Fiction and Fact, and Fantasy and Science Fiction—by Steven Salpeter and a group of investors has raised concerns within the community. While some fear the consolidation of ownership, others express optimism about the magazines' future, especially since the current editorial teams will remain in place. Salpeter's background as a genre fan and former literary agent is seen as a positive sign. Additionally, the ongoing situation at Baen Books has generated speculation about its stability, with some authors refuting claims of leaving the publisher. The Hugo Awards nominations are approaching, and the Seattle Worldcon's accessibility information remains incomplete, prompting concerns from potential attendees. The NEA has announced changes to its grant funding priorities, and the SFWA faces internal pressure to address support for marginalized writers.

- The "big three" genre magazines have been acquired, raising concerns but also optimism for their future.

- Salpeter's ownership is viewed positively due to his background in the genre.

- Speculation surrounds Baen Books' stability amid reports of staff changes and new competition.

- The Hugo Awards nominations are closing soon, with community efforts to share eligible works.

- The NEA is altering grant funding priorities, impacting arts projects.

AI: What people are saying
The comments reflect a deep nostalgia and concern for the future of science fiction magazines amidst recent acquisitions and changes in the industry.
  • Many commenters reminisce about their experiences with classic magazines like Analog and their impact on the genre.
  • There are concerns about the accessibility of digital subscriptions and the challenges faced by these publications.
  • Some express disappointment in the current state of science fiction, suggesting it has declined in quality.
  • Commenters highlight the historical significance of these magazines in launching many great sci-fi stories.
  • There is a fear that AI might exploit the back catalog of stories, potentially leading to a dystopian future for the genre.
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By @whartung - 2 months
Someone probably knows this in more detail, and I can easily get the magazine wrong. But I’ll share the anecdote, maybe it’ll ring someone else’s bell.

Back in the day, talking 40s to 50s, Analog published a letter to the editor that was “from the future”. Several years in the future. The writer was commenting on the stories, the topics, the writers, etc. in that issue.

Several years later (and I want to say it was, like, 9 years), Analog published that issue based on that letter. They contracted the authors and stories, the whole thing.

By @droideqa - 2 months
Anybody reading this might appreciate ‘Astounding’[0]:

“Astounding is the landmark account of the extraordinary partnership between four controversial writers—John W. Campbell, Isaac Asimov, Robert A. Heinlein, and L. Ron Hubbard—who set off a revolution in science fiction and forever changed our world. ”

[0]: https://www.amazon.com/Astounding-Campbell-Heinlein-Hubbard-...

By @BMc2020 - 2 months
The golden age of science fiction is twelve...

This is a good spot to post the omni magazine collection as well...

http://www.williamflew.com/

By @rom16384 - 2 months
I used to buy Analog on paper once in a while. A few years back I wanted to subscribe the digital version, but there wasn't a convenient way to do so, just closed platforms and drm'd readers, so I didn't subscribe. Don't make it hard for people to give you money. They could just email pdfs...
By @jasonthorsness - 2 months
In the 1990s my uncle gave me a ton of Analog and Fantasy and Science Fiction from the 1970s of which I only still have maybe a half-dozen. Even in the 90s the perspective of the stories was super interesting and now even more so. Surprisingly they have almost no advertisement, just stories. I didn’t know they were still around!
By @mcswell - 2 months
There is a freely browsable and readable collection of stories from the 40s, 50s and 60s, and a few later, mostly from Analog, here: https://www.freesfonline.net/Magazines2.html
By @adamgordonbell - 2 months
I got really into short sf fiction, reading years best collections and then seeing they were all from analog ect started reading them.

The collections were better, just more filtered, but the history of these pulp magazines is amazing.

By @bjelkeman-again - 2 months
Another SF&F magazine I enjoy is Clarkesworld. I met the editor at Worldcon last year and it was nice hearing about how they manage to publish online for free and still pay authors.

https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/

By @themadturk - 2 months
I read Analog avidly in the mid-to-late 60s (yeah, 12 being the golden age of science fiction). I only remember one story for sure I read there, Dean McLaughlin's A Hawk Among The Sparrows, but I'm pretty sure I caught some others serialized there during that era. Good to see these mags are still around.
By @hnthrowaway0315 - 2 months
I never read any SF magazines, but "Analog Science Fiction and Fact" seems to be a super cool name for a SF magazine.

What are the most popular Analog/Embedded hobbyist magazines out there? I know Pi has one or more, but I always feel Pi to be a bit too high level for my taste.

By @greesil - 2 months
I was gifted an Asimov subscription back in the late 90s, and when I went to college stopped reading. I recently had subscribed again and found it not as good as I remembered. As a kid it was definitely hit or miss, but as an adult it's all misses. I can figure out if the magazine has changed, or if I have changed, or both. But, it feels like it has gone downhill. Honestly, the whole genre. Maybe it's hard to write sci fi now what we're actually living it. Or, anyone with talent has gone elsewhere.
By @DoneWithAllThat - 2 months
I’m not sure how many people realize the number of great sci-fi stories that started as anthologies in these magazines. It’s a foundation of the entire genre that often goes entirely unappreciated.
By @pfdietz - 2 months
I didn't realize FaSF was teetering on the brink.
By @throwaway81523 - 2 months
Yikes. I wonder if they will use the back catalog of science fiction stories to train AI and give us new forms of dystopia.
By @dsign - 2 months
I think we have killed science fiction with all sort of dumb things, but specially social media. And I don't mean that people spend more time on social media than reading (but they definitely do), but that in social media everybody is a bad critic, and that influences authors.

Just to give an example, I put off for many years reading Larry Niven's ringworld series, because I read in Twitter that the book was sexist. Well, it was sexist, but so were things at the time, and Ringworld is an amazing book otherwise, with some actual science sprinkled here and there, a lot of humor, and it's relatively low on drama.

Another science fiction killer was Hollywood. They want so much drama and special effects,and it should be appealing to people who don't know any science at all.

Who knows, maybe AI slop will save us by making us value logical consistency in art, something that current transformers and LLMs are very bad at. But I have more faith on our top-of-the-line AIs becoming logically consistent way before popular culture shifts in that direction, since current economic forces press for smarter AIs and stupider people.

By @HumblyTossed - 2 months
Never got into these but loved AHMM for a while.
By @fallingfrog - 2 months
Well it was nice while it lasted
By @zabzonk - 2 months
Ooh, I hadn't thought of these mags (sort of the size of a paperback) for years. I used to read Galaxy and Analog in the mid-70s. I wonder where people sell or will sell SF novels these days? They were published multi-part in the mags.

I stopped reading them because I moved to London in the late 70s, and was frankly broke because of housing and other costs.