June 28th, 2024

Google begs court for relief from Epic Games' Play Store demands

Google resists Epic Games' Play Store changes in court, citing high costs and security risks. Epic seeks third-party store access, porting support, and Google Play distribution. Ongoing legal battle over alleged Google Play monopoly.

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Google begs court for relief from Epic Games' Play Store demands

Google is resisting Epic Games' injunction demands in a California court, arguing that the proposed changes to the Play Store would be too costly and pose new security risks for Android users. Google estimates the cost of implementing the demanded changes to be up to $137 million, not including potential harm to its brands and the Android ecosystem. Epic's requests include providing third-party app stores access to Google Play's catalog, supporting library porting, and distributing third-party app stores through Google Play. Google argues that these changes would give third-party stores undue benefits, harm user security, and be costly to implement. The court has yet to issue a decision on Google's objections. The ongoing legal battle between Epic Games and Google stems from a jury's decision that Google Play was an illegal monopoly. Epic aims to open up Android devices to more competition and choice for developers and consumers. Apple and Epic are also embroiled in a separate antitrust case related to app store practices.

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By @no_wizard - 5 months
I can take the point with Google on transferring already installed apps from the Play Store to a 3rd Party store. That is a real issue which warrants further scrutiny, because the vectors for potential abuse.

I think the free ride of the Play Store having back links automatically in 3rd party app stores to “fill the gaps” is also problematic for representation reasons and is actually bad for users, as origin becomes obfuscated and so does support. If you want apps as a 3rd party store you need to recruit developers to publish to it. This is a clear and transparent attempt by Epic to undercut the Play Store while simultaneously benefiting from it at the same time. It’s not a pro consumer move.

I have trouble siding with them on the claims of distribution.

Distributing 3rd party app stores via Google Play Store isn’t hard, it’s just another app, effectively. It would actually allow them to police for exploitation and malware more transparently I would think, since the store itself would have to get approved like any other app.

By @sublinear - 5 months
This is crazy. The case against Apple is much stronger than the one against Google.

Android devices don't even require the Play Store. Tons of devices out there are sold without it. Android is on far more than just phones. Google doesn't have as much control over its presence on devices as Apple does with the App Store on iOS.

By @throw1234875 - 5 months
> The Chocolate Factory filed a briefing [PDF] objecting to Epic's demands on Monday, arguing that its internal estimate of up to $137 million to implement catalog access, library porting and distribution of third-party app stores, plus ongoing charges to keep the whole thing running, was simply too much to bear.

They could staff a hefty-sized team, have that team ship their deliverables wrapped in SAP middleware deployed on Oracle with metal racked by NASA astronauts on the dark side of the *fucking moon* and I still don't understand how it costs 137 million to CRUD a few models and wrap a REST API around it.

By @kotaKat - 5 months
Why should Epic Games get the right to the Google Play Store catalog, exactly?

This would be like Target getting the rights to Walmart's inventory, wouldn't it?

By @mistercheph - 5 months
In an alternate universe, I wonder what would happen if we went the other way, allowing the walled groundskeepers their fences, but taking away all 'platform'-based legal protections that they enjoy; not just section 230: Apple liable for all copyright infringement, users defrauded by an app on the Play Store could claim damages from Google, etc.

These protections are also precisely what the faux-libertarian defenders of Apple and Google's rights to shine their gnomes and trim their hedges ignore.

By @0xTJ - 5 months
The use of "begs" in that title it a bit dramatic. Sure Google is being childish, but that's just making a more inflammatory headline.