August 6th, 2024

Is Europe headed towards a new Ice Age as ocean current nears collapse?

Recent studies show the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation is at its weakest in a millennium, risking a 5 to 15°C temperature drop in Europe and severe climatic impacts.

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Is Europe headed towards a new Ice Age as ocean current nears collapse?

Recent studies indicate that the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), a crucial ocean current, is potentially at its weakest point in a millennium. If this current were to collapse, Europe could experience a significant temperature drop, ranging from 5 to 15 degrees Celsius. This drastic cooling could lead to severe climatic changes across the continent, raising concerns about the possibility of a new ice age. The implications of such a shift would be profound, affecting weather patterns, agriculture, and overall environmental stability in Europe. Experts are closely monitoring the situation as the AMOC's stability is critical for maintaining the current climate conditions in the region.

- The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation is at its weakest in a thousand years.

- A collapse of the AMOC could lead to a temperature drop of 5 to 15°C in Europe.

- Such a cooling could have severe impacts on climate, agriculture, and environmental stability.

- The situation is being closely monitored by experts due to its potential implications.

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By @defrost - 2 months
Fun article, and it's true that there's uncertainity about the future of the AMOC and consequences that might flow.

The real meat is the undercurrent and framing .. from a PR standpoint this is advanced late stage fossil fuel advocacy from the Saudi Oil Machine; head to the end and the message is Yes! Climate Change (AGW) is Real and a threat .. but don't stop consuming fossil fuels!!

( brought to us by Robin M. Mills, CEO of Qamar Energy and author of 'The Myth of the Oil Crisis' and https://www.thenationalnews.com/about-us/ )

The advocacy here is for pumping sulfur into the stratosphere and burying CO2.

What's sidestepped is the band aid temporary nature (with side effects) of continuously emmitting sulfur and the fundementally not even break even state of CO2 sequestration .. the largest carbon removal project on the planet emits a good magnitude (and more) CO2 than it buries as it's literally an excuse to keep extracting a lot of gas while using a tiny amount for some back pressure in the field.

By @fwsgonzo - 2 months
This video has been a good introduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHNNW8c_FaA

I live on the coast of Norway so I am trying to keep up with the research. It is exactly as the article says: Even if there's "only" a 10% chance, or even 5%, that's a huge risk to take to stay. So I think it's important to pay attention to this henceforward.

By @nottorp - 2 months
Meanwhile, by next summer I need to have my european home (northern romania, at about the same latitude as austria and the south of germany) fully covered by air conditioning.

I absolutely didn't need it until, say, last year. And since last year repeated this year, I'm not waiting any more.

I would get it installed now but everyone is out of stock :)

And yes, this article is subtly selling something.

By @pjmlp - 2 months
The problem is that with covid, ongoing wars close home, and economics, goverments let all compromises fell down, additionally the way the fridays for future and other movements decided to protest with their infrastructure blocking actions, the regular population is starting to lose interest on their message, thus nothing really effective happens, as means to fix everything.
By @wewxjfq - 2 months
Last time I checked climate models the cooling wouldn't even offset global warming and just send Europe back to the 1990s in terms of temperatures.
By @silexia - 2 months
No real science is discussed in this article, just hypotheticals. Read Michael Crichton if you want science fantasy that is actually entertaining.
By @jmclnx - 2 months
We have far more CO2 in the atmosphere now then back then. Maybe Europe may be a bit cooler than NE US, but Ice-age, no.
By @kkfx - 2 months
I suggest a simple take, it's essentially evident that the climate change, and we know from history that's always happen. How it will change it's very uncertain.

As a result we need to been able to adapt, which design allow us to adapt? A spread life, small semi-autonomous buildings, something quick to be built, with all raw materials easy to source locally, transformable at small scale locally, with the littlest dependency of fixed on-land large infra. Oh, actually is the sole part of the Green Deal who seems to work.

New single-family homes, sheds, well insulated, designed to use the Sun as much as possible, with THE VERY SAME DESIGN in all climate. Thinks seriously: do you know any working smart-city? Neom, Arkadag, Innopolis, the original Fordlandia? Do you know large projects that do works well? Conversely do you have seen or built a modern home, a modern shed, and hey, that's worked? Do you realize how "identical" are modern small buildings from the poles, the tropic, deserts etc? How easy to adapt they are?

Now decide for yourself which part of the Green New Deal can realistically be done and which can't.

By @andersa - 2 months
That would be amazing. Fuck the hot summers we currently get. My AC is wasting so much money...