August 12th, 2024

Ancient calendar, recently discovered, may document a long-ago disaster

Researchers at Gobekli Tepe may have discovered the oldest lunisolar calendar, potentially documenting a comet strike around 10,850 B.C. that caused a 1,200-year ice age and extinctions.

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Ancient calendar, recently discovered, may document a long-ago disaster

Researchers at Gobekli Tepe in southern Turkey have potentially uncovered the world's oldest lunisolar calendar, which may document a significant astronomical event. Martin Sweatman from the University of Edinburgh suggests that V-shaped markings on a pillar at the site correspond to a comet strike that occurred around 10,850 B.C., leading to a 1,200-year ice age and the extinction of many large animals. This discovery aligns with Sweatman's previous research linking the site to the comet impact. The calendar appears to track the lunar cycle and consists of 365 days, divided into 12 lunar months and additional days. The findings have sparked debate among archaeologists, with some questioning the interpretation of the markings. Sweatman argues that the carvings indicate ancient humans were capable of recording celestial observations, reflecting the importance of the comet event in their lives. The research highlights the potential for ancient peoples to document time and seasonal changes, providing insight into their understanding of the cosmos.

- Researchers at Gobekli Tepe may have found the world's oldest lunisolar calendar.

- The calendar possibly records a comet strike from around 10,850 B.C.

- The event is believed to have triggered a 1,200-year ice age and extinctions.

- The V-shaped symbols on the pillar are interpreted as markings of the lunar cycle.

- The findings have generated debate among archaeologists regarding their significance.

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By @neonate - 2 months
By @rfecdsxhkj - 2 months
Sweatman is actually not an archaeologist, and this whole concept he's been pushing for around a decade is actually dead wrong. It's incredible that this actually got published in a legitimate journal with an archaeological focus.

I recommend reading this breakdown of why he's wrong from 2019: https://skepticink.com/lateraltruth/2019/01/25/martin-sweatm...

And a great spoof of his work showcasing the numerous logical fallacies in his reasoning: https://skepticink.com/lateraltruth/2018/12/07/decoding-loon...

By @onlypassingthru - 2 months
"The comet strike ushered in a 1,200-year ice age and led to the extinction of many large animals, Dr. Sweatman said. For humans, the comet probably also led to differences in lifestyle and agriculture that helped usher in the rise of civilization as we know it."

I thought the Americas' megafauna died after the ice age, not because of it?

By @torlok - 2 months
Can't wait to hear what archaeologists have to day about this interpretation. This is a fun topic to speculate about.

Meanwhile, in case anybody's interested, the Younger Dryas hypothesis is controversial, not widely accepted by the experts, and dr Sweatman appears to be a Chemical Engineer, not an Archeologist. Not that it discredits his findings, of course.

By @8bitsrule - 2 months
For those interested in exploring this topic in much more scientific detail than the NYTimes dares to try, his observations, interpretations and counter-arguments - going back many years - are available on his YTube channel here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx11KXwumf5w8J-GdBGKNVA/vid...

By @neilv - 2 months
> Although Dr. Sweatman has long researched the symbols at the ancient site in Turkey, this recent breakthrough came in the form of a tip when someone emailed him that the V-shaped symbols on the pillar could be interpreted as markings of the lunar cycle.

They didn't want to be coauthor?

By @nyc111 - 2 months
How do they interpret the three handbag like carvings on top also seen in other prehistoric figures https://www.pinterest.com/pin/642466703103282106/
By @cynicalpeace - 2 months
Amazing how the NY Times can report this stuff as racist and conspiracist only to nonchalantly affirm it months later: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/magazine/younger-dryas-im...
By @reedf1 - 2 months
Careful analysis must be taken to avoid falling victim to the look-elsewhere effect. It is easy to find any numerical relationship you want with motivated reasoning.
By @throwaway290 - 2 months
TLDR YDIH, if you watched Ancient Apocalypse this is what Gobekli Tepe episode was about. I thought it's debunked.