August 15th, 2024

The Quantum Butterfly Effect

Los Alamos scientists found that quantum disruptions do not cause chaotic outcomes, differentiating between Lorenz's and Bradbury's butterfly effect interpretations, and revealing quantum systems' self-healing properties despite chaos.

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The Quantum Butterfly Effect

Los Alamos scientists have explored the intersection of quantum physics, time travel, and chaos theory, revealing that quantum-level disruptions do not lead to the chaotic outcomes typically associated with the butterfly effect. Their research indicates that altering a particle's quantum state in the past does not significantly impact its present state, contrasting with the classical butterfly effect, where small changes can lead to large consequences in complex systems. The study differentiates between two interpretations of the butterfly effect: Edward Lorenz's chaotic behavior in systems like weather, and Ray Bradbury's narrative of time travel, where minor alterations in the past yield significant changes in the present. Researchers have linked two key measures in quantum chaos—the Loschmidt echo and the out-of-time-order correlator (OTOC)—demonstrating that complex quantum systems exhibit characteristics of both interpretations. By employing a concept from quantum computing called circuit complexity, they quantified how similar quantum wave functions diverge over time, establishing a Lorenz-type quantum butterfly effect. This suggests that while quantum systems can exhibit chaotic behavior, they also possess a self-healing property, allowing them to maintain stability despite minor perturbations. The findings open avenues for further exploration into the nature of quantum chaos and its implications.

- Los Alamos research shows quantum disruptions do not lead to chaotic outcomes.

- The study differentiates between Lorenz's and Bradbury's interpretations of the butterfly effect.

- Researchers linked the Loschmidt echo and OTOC in quantum chaos.

- Circuit complexity was used to quantify divergence in quantum wave functions.

- The findings suggest quantum systems have self-healing properties despite chaos.

AI: What people are saying
The comments on the article reveal various perspectives on the findings regarding quantum disruptions and chaos.
  • Several commenters reference related academic papers and express interest in the quantum butterfly effect.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of quantum systems having self-healing properties and potential error-correction mechanisms.
  • Some users question the interpretations of quantum chaos and its relation to established theories like the Copenhagen interpretation.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of citations in the article, suggesting it may be based on pre-published findings.
  • Comments reflect a mix of curiosity and skepticism regarding the implications of quantum mechanics on reality and chaos theory.
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By @thecrims0nchin - 8 months
I'm used to articles like this having some citation, but this doesn't seem to have any. I know about los Alamos lab but not familiar with their writing, am I correct in assuming this is pre-published findings?
By @K0balt - 8 months
This seems a bit self referential, if viewed from a many worlds interpretation.

The infinity of universes in which you can exist is reduced to a lesser infinity by the reverse time travel, since you could only have travelled backwards from universal states in which those specific conditions still existed, ergo reality appears to the traveller to be self healing.

That’s one of the things about MWI that is irritating, even though it still seems the most likely to me. It covers the testing parameters so completely that it is impossible to test. You always end up in a lesser infinity, but an infinity nonetheless. What we need is a way to quantify randomness in such a way that we might detect a change in the dimensions of infinities or something, but that seems improbable at best.

By @rbanffy - 8 months
Interesting… feels like reality has an error-correction mechanism, that perturbations small enough can be smoothed out at a macroscopic scale.
By @oezi - 8 months
> “At the outset, it wasn’t clear that quantum chaos would even exist,” says Yan. “The equations of quantum physics give no immediate indication of it.”

Aren't the Copenhagen interpretation and Heisenberg uncertainty principle an immediate indication that Quantum systems can only be chaotic?

By @hggh - 8 months
(2021)
By @mixtureoftakes - 8 months
it was just deleted? Page not found
By @ninju - 8 months
[2021]
By @refibrillator - 8 months
Paper (2020): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2003.07267

As a layperson I found the first page to be more succinct and intuitive than the article.

> Let Alice have such a processor that implements fast information scrambling during a reversible unitary evolution of many interacting qubits. She applies this evolution to hide an original state of one of her qubits, which we call the central qubit. The other qubits are called the bath. To recover the initial central qubit state, Alice can apply a time-reversed protocol.

> Let Bob be an intruder who can measure the state of the central qubit in any basis unknown to Alice. If her processor has already scrambled the information, Alice is sure that Bob cannot get anything useful. However, Bob’s measurement changes the state of the central qubit and also destroys all quantum correlations between this qubit and the rest of the system.

> According to the no-hiding theorem, information of the central qubit is completely transferred to the bath during the scrambling process. However, Alice does not have knowledge of the bath state at any time. How can she recover the useful information in this case?

> In this Letter, we show that even after Bob’s measurement, Alice can recover her information by applying the time-reversed protocol and performing a quantum state tomography with a limited amount of effort. Moreover, reconstruction of the original qubit will not be influenced by Bob’s choice of the measurement axis and the initial state of the bath.

> This effect cannot be explained with semiclassical intuition. Indeed, classical chaotic evolution magnifies any state damage exponentially quickly, which is known as the butterfly effect. The quantum evolution, however, is linear. This explains why, in our case, the uncontrolled damage to the state is not magnified by the subsequent complex evolution.

By @spiritplumber - 8 months
"Some days you're the simulation, some days you're the calamari." (If you know you know)